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Old 5th Sep 2006, 21:14
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Originally Posted by microlight AV8R
Pontius, I concur with your historical statement.

I see the Suez campaign as the opening shots of the latest stage of the long war.

I might even be tempted to root out my bible and find a quotation I have in mind which shows the conflict started even further back.

Perehaps I should be more reserved in my responses to our colonial cousins. After all, they are so young in terms of statehood
That's as maybe. But aren't we getting just a little off thread?
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micro you are too kind.

My history course also posed the question was the 2nd WW merely a continuation of Bismarck's foreign policy some 70 years previous. Indeed you could argue that current policy is unchanged.

Did you see Sunday's Telegraph with the new European map drawn but German cartographers? Kent to be part of the Normandy region. Better, Scotland in the same region as Greenland, Iceland, Faroes and northern Norway - now someone is likely to object . At least we got the Atlantic seaboard.
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Old 5th Sep 2006, 21:21
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator
At least we got the Atlantic seaboard.
What ?! Have we got Ireland back ??
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Old 5th Sep 2006, 22:05
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Yup, all the way down the Route Napoleon to St Jean d'Luz and beyond and got rid of Scotland - bonus - do we get rid of the Scottish question too?
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Old 5th Sep 2006, 22:07
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What he should do is to re-visit each of the major decisions made during his so-called leadership and re-consider them under the headings of: honour, duty, truth and integrity.
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Maggie listed New Labour as one of her greatest acheivements!

And what's wrong with Tone wanting to be on Blue Peter? I'm sure he will wear his badge with pride!
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Im not so sure that GB will assume command.....I'd put my money on


http://www.number-10.gov.uk/output/Page1388.asp
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Considering that 50 of Bliars MP's are calling for his resignation, how will we fare under Brown?

I didn't vote for Labour back in 97, let alone Brown.

Should the public be able to ask for a general election on the grounds of mistrust and disillusion? Do we get a choice who is the next leader? Why should we all accept ( in my eyes ) someone who will take the UK further down the road to ruin as precipitated by Browns steal and fritter policies.

Will we rip up the paving slabs if Brown becomes the new noo labour top bod?

No, we won't. As usual we will just put up and shut up.
at least the French would riot about such things!!!!


Time for a revolution against the failed socialism that Blair, mandy and brown thought would be good for us all.


Get rid of Labour and all of their cronies before we become the laughing stock of society as we know it.

Sorry, I think it might be too late
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Old 6th Sep 2006, 01:02
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Im not so sure that GB will assume command.....I'd put my money on
John Reid - I reckon you may be right there vecvechookattack All the press hoo-har revolves around the Liar handing over to the Lurker as agreed during their infamous Islington restaurant meeting. But the leadership isn't in Tony's gift. The party constitution provides for a leadership election when the post falls vacant.

The leader is elected by an electoral college, with votes allocated equally to the Trades Unions, Parliamentary Labour Party and the constituency Labour Parties. Trades unions and CLPs must hold ballots of their individual members using a one member, one vote system. So, it is indeed far from certain that GB will be the next Prime Minister.

...and that is probably why the Liar is taking so long to decide on when to "step down" and the Lurker is keeping his head down and his mouth shut.


At the end of the day though, the question is one of policy. Will the next PM continue with the policy of walking to heel with a Trans-Atlantic master?
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Put it out to tender

*Instead of electing a so called government, who interestingly enough attracted only 22% of the votes cast, why don't the electorate simply put it out to tender? Perhaps Sir Alan Sugar, Sir Richard Branson or even our very own favourite Mr Easy himself! I am quite sure none of the aforementioned would make anywhere near as much as a hash of it as this bunch of amateurs who have rules with smoke, mirrors, spin and much self congratulations! And we English certainly do not want Mr Brown in charge

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Time for a revolution against the failed socialism that Blair, mandy and brown thought would be good for us all.
I'm with you, I have oiled my musket, now where shall we assemble?
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Old 6th Sep 2006, 04:09
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On night shift at the moment, but will crack a celebration tinny in the morning. Bye Tony, can't you just FO now and save us further agony??
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Is he still in the job?

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Think I'd prefer John Reid to GB too. Was quite impressed with him when he became MinAF in '97 when Teeters was a MoD slave....

But the CV since then is impressive - he's had a go at many departments, whereas GB has done Treasury and ... er ... that's all.

But then he did have the Stranglers record a song about him, or is my A2 helicopter hearing deceiving me again.......
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Old 6th Sep 2006, 09:16
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I think if John Reid got in as P.M the 'West Lothian' question would seriously have to be looked again.The country would be then ruled by a Scot with no doubt lots more in his cabinet.They've got their own parliament which cost us all as UK taxpayers a lot of money.
Definitely NOT ON!
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Now that is a good point laser,

I do wonder how many Englishmen are members of the Scottish Parliament....

My guess is zero.
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Old 6th Sep 2006, 10:24
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Blair was born in Edinburgh.
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Old 6th Sep 2006, 10:31
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There are only Scotsmen and Scotswomen in the Scottish Parliament. However, judging by the accents, some of them are Scots of English origin, just as some are Scots of Asian origin. I wonder when we'll have our first Scots-Polish MSP!
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Why don't we completly screw this country up? Lets get Prescott in as PM. At least we could all die laughing.
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We are in this sorry state not because of the politicians but the lazy, take all give nothing British public who would rather vote on Big Brother than a General Election.
If you choose not to vote then you have noone to blame but yourselves (general comment and not aimed at anyone in particular).

Personally, I want GB in as Prime Minister because he is the only effective means of destroying the Government we have. Cameron and his Wine Bar cronies will probably be in Berlin apologising for WW2.

Stephen Fry summed it up nicely in an interview a few months ago when he said 'It is not those who seek power in this country that are at fault, it is the scum like us who are given the vote and let them get away with it'.
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