Hollywood in Dambusters Remake!
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Hollywood in Dambusters Remake!
No, really!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/5301998.stm
Can't wait to see those brave boys of the 617th Bombardment Squadron, USAAF, take down those German dams in their trusty B17s!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/5301998.stm
Can't wait to see those brave boys of the 617th Bombardment Squadron, USAAF, take down those German dams in their trusty B17s!
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Regardless of the merits or otherwise of the remake, you just know that the main focus of attention is going to be what they call the dog.
If indeed they include the dog.
If indeed they include the dog.
Oh my, oh my. I hate politically correct clap-trap and this one will take the cake.
Guy Gibson being told that his beloved dog, Afro-American, has been hit by a car. Tears and drama!
AAAAAAAAAAAAArrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! !!!!!!!
Guy Gibson being told that his beloved dog, Afro-American, has been hit by a car. Tears and drama!
AAAAAAAAAAAAArrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! !!!!!!!
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That would by Colonel Guy 'Chip' Gibson, would it?
No doubt the brave boys and girls of the USAF will be depicted in a daring raid to destroy the bridge on the river kwai with the first atom bombs having used the enigma that they captured to discover that the communist dictator Saddam Bin-laden who singlehandedly masterminded the start of the WWII with the sneak attack on perl harbour, had based his terrorist training camp under the bridge.
Can't wait
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Can't wait
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On the subject of the dam-buster raids, is it true to say that it that it didn't really change the outcome of WWII (as the original movie portrayed). Not trying to slight those brave people who took part, or the brilliant engineering involved.
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Langball, largely correct - German industry quickly recovered. However, it did remove a lot of German troops from the front line to form units to protect the dams. But the main effect was a huge boost to civilian morale in Britain.
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From http://www.heureka.clara.net/lincoln...dambusters.htm :
"In the long term, it proved to be little more than a minor inconvenience to the Ruhr's industrial output. A beneficial side effect was that 27,000 men were withdrawn from Atlantic Wall defences to rebuild the dams and 10,000 men were allocated to protect Germany's other dams in expectation of further raids, although no further dam raids took place.
Where the raid did have an impact, was that the pictures of the broken dams proved to be a huge morale boost to the Allies, especially to the British, suffering under German bombing. It also told the Germans, the British could strike at the heart of their war machine. Maybe even more important, it showed the Americans and the Russians, what the British were capable of."
So, as with many "elite force" operations, the direct impact may have been small, but the ongoing fear, and the re-allocation of assets that followed added to the pressure on the German machine. 10,000 men defending the dams who could have been in Northern France in 1944....
"In the long term, it proved to be little more than a minor inconvenience to the Ruhr's industrial output. A beneficial side effect was that 27,000 men were withdrawn from Atlantic Wall defences to rebuild the dams and 10,000 men were allocated to protect Germany's other dams in expectation of further raids, although no further dam raids took place.
Where the raid did have an impact, was that the pictures of the broken dams proved to be a huge morale boost to the Allies, especially to the British, suffering under German bombing. It also told the Germans, the British could strike at the heart of their war machine. Maybe even more important, it showed the Americans and the Russians, what the British were capable of."
So, as with many "elite force" operations, the direct impact may have been small, but the ongoing fear, and the re-allocation of assets that followed added to the pressure on the German machine. 10,000 men defending the dams who could have been in Northern France in 1944....
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Er.. It's Peter Jackson, so it's New Zealand, not Hollywood!
Wonder if the WETA workshop people are going to visit the BBMF to get some Lanc footage to base their effects on?
Wonder if the WETA workshop people are going to visit the BBMF to get some Lanc footage to base their effects on?
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If Peter Jackson delivers half of the faithfullness that he did to Tolkiens books then I think that everyone on these boards will rate the new film in their top 5.
Worried what they will call the dog though....blackie?
I hope they manage to use the special effects to good use and don't make it look like a glorified xbox game.
Peter Jackson remember is responsible for the excellent Lord of the Rings Trilogy and also the terrific remake of King Kong. I wouldn't write this one off quite so fast. Better than Tarantino getting the job just imagine, "Hey Gibson yo Mutha, I killed your dog N**ger and F*** yo mutha, now I'm going to torture you and give your wife a foot massage".....fades into scene of RAF airmen dancing to Sing Sing Sing whilst cutting each other with a switch blade......
Worried what they will call the dog though....blackie?
I hope they manage to use the special effects to good use and don't make it look like a glorified xbox game.
Peter Jackson remember is responsible for the excellent Lord of the Rings Trilogy and also the terrific remake of King Kong. I wouldn't write this one off quite so fast. Better than Tarantino getting the job just imagine, "Hey Gibson yo Mutha, I killed your dog N**ger and F*** yo mutha, now I'm going to torture you and give your wife a foot massage".....fades into scene of RAF airmen dancing to Sing Sing Sing whilst cutting each other with a switch blade......
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No real choice but to use computer generated Lancs - but I'll put up with that if they get the sound of those four merlins right.
And the name of that non-white labrador too!
And the name of that non-white labrador too!
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
To be honest, the dog is totally irrelevant to the story and was only added for "human interest". It would avoid a lot of hassle, and stop attention being detracted from the real story, if it was left out altogether.
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Chorttled my way through the early posts, however,have fath, Sir David Frost will be the executive prducer.
Given Jacksons track record it should be a good movie. Have to say, however, that I am now standing by for the announcement that Ewan McGregor will play Guy Gibson though.
Given Jacksons track record it should be a good movie. Have to say, however, that I am now standing by for the announcement that Ewan McGregor will play Guy Gibson though.
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Talk elsewhere that PJ has already done some Lanc footage.
This Guardian blog post/comments on the subject mentioned TDB's appearance on The Office:
and a likely "rebooting" of that Labrador:
This Guardian blog post/comments on the subject mentioned TDB's appearance on The Office:
"That's not offensive. That's the dog's name. It was the forties as well - before racism was bad."
Yes, then the dog could be called Nigga. As in ... With Attitude. Give it a gold-plated bone and an earring and it'll be Blinger Command all the way.
Mel Gibson was going to direct and possibly act in it
Having an anti-semitic New Yorker lean out of a Lanc, dressed in a Wg Cdr's uniform, shouting "Don't you know who I am?"