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Old 29th Aug 2006, 10:35
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Yes they have to work together for 3 years and hence get on, but what about 'ordinary' squadron pilots who have to put up with lack of equipment/hours/comfort when risking their lives in theatre?

I appreciate that it was a programme about the Reds, but everything said about cameradrerie and skills etc etc is, in my book, more than surpassed by the Pilots/Observers/Navs and Crewies doing a 'real' tour, as well as the ground grunts.
Give 'em a break! All of the Harrier pilot candidates featured have recently done a tour somewhere sandy on Ops as 'ordinary' Sqn pilots (if not in Afg as we type). Yes the prog was about the reds but I don't think it detracts from what our boys and girls are doing at the sharp end. It has been too easy recently to focus on JPA/drawdown/lean/overstretch etc but occasionally it takes a programme like this to remind you that there are still some good bits left - doesn't it?!
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Old 29th Aug 2006, 11:03
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It seems to me that, more than any other flying job I've seen so far, they live in each other's pockets for the full 3 years. They rely on the other members' support and morale as well as their abilities every day which is why the personal selection aspect is so important. If you can't rub by with the other chaps then it damages the team. Not an old boys club so much as a survival mechanism. (Perhaps a touch dramatic ).
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Old 29th Aug 2006, 12:47
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Enjoyed the programme - have been lucky enough in years gone by to do support for the Reds in some pretty exotic locations. They work and play hard and look after their staff.

Nice to see postive PR in the current service bashing climate.

Keep it up boys!!!
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Old 29th Aug 2006, 13:29
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It came across to me as if they were intimating that the Reds were special in the way that they had to bond with each other etc, which I disagree with.

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Try flying on a small ships flight.......
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Old 29th Aug 2006, 14:47
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Shame that Chris didn't get in, he's a nice chap, met him once. The 2 that did get in did very well in the formation test, better than 7 of the others IIRC but not as good as kermit. So flying skill obviously came into it and it wasn't all about who they like the most.

I wonder if Manners will have a go at the reds at some point, he's the GR4 display pilot this year
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Old 29th Aug 2006, 14:48
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Shame that Chris didn't get in, he's a nice chap, met him once
It's a real shame.
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Old 29th Aug 2006, 15:23
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Cool

Yes The Boss is leaving the Reds, hence 2 for selection and no, I doubt you'll see them in the new Hawks for a few years yet. Both the Reds & RAF came out of the documentary very strong - thankfully you can't make reality tv out of the selection process (so no audience voting next year then!)

My 4 year old daughter has already set her sights on joining them - after she's done a spot of wingwalking, beaten Zara Phillips etc etc - watch out!!

s&c
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Old 30th Aug 2006, 11:00
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??? You can't fly small ships
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Old 30th Aug 2006, 11:17
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OCCWMF ??? You can't fly small ships
Oh yes you can:

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Curses! (hydro)foiled again!
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Old 30th Aug 2006, 12:06
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I have to say it looks like CG is correct. The conclusion to be drawn from the evidence presented is that that they just voted fot their mates. Selecting your mates is all very well but look at the England football team.

As to the bit about the VC10, typical bit of RAF spin. It is not an airliner any more. its an ex-airliner and whilst it may be the fastest flying ex-airliner it's not the..........(Yawn.)
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Curses! (hydro)foiled again!
Excellent!
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"Curses! (hydro)foiled again"

Once again again I'm outbantered.

Was the W/C (CFI?) giving the bad news to Jim Woodward at Valley GK? Nice to see he's as fat as he was on MASUAS in 1981.
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Old 2nd Sep 2006, 01:35
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"I don't care how many times they go up-diddly-up-up ...... "

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Old 2nd Sep 2006, 16:20
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I wonder if Manners will have a go at the reds at some point, he's the GR4 display pilot this year
He's way too short and bald for the Reds. And he's got to stop trashing GR4s first...
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Old 2nd Sep 2006, 16:21
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Short and bald? Ideally suited, I would have thought!
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Old 21st Nov 2007, 11:58
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DOES ANYONE have the episode recorded on their hard drive so that we can all enjoy, i currently only have it on tape and would be very grateful if i could have it on my computer. anyone?? thanks!
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Old 21st Nov 2007, 12:01
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hey,do you think u could give me a copy as well?? thanks!
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Old 21st Nov 2007, 13:26
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It's shown every now and the on BBCHD. Schedule below - keep an eye on it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/whatso...2075&day=Today

You can record the HD version if you have a satellite tuner card, e.g Skystar 2, installed in your PC.
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Old 29th Nov 2007, 20:53
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Thanks! But i was wondering if anyone had it on there PC??? I have it on tape at home but im at uni and craving a watch! Cheers.
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