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Sea King bag on a Lynx AH 7 - what gives?

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Old 12th Jul 2006, 12:10
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Sea King bag on a Lynx AH 7 - what gives?

Just a saw a photo of the above in a aircraft mag. Bag Lynx - interesting thought. What's the idea?
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Originally Posted by Navaleye
Just a saw a photo of the above in a aircraft mag. Bag Lynx - interesting thought. What's the idea?
You say its an AH7 and not a Navy Lynx?

If so, I suspect its Oxbow or Chancellor - airborne camera as opposed to 'bag' al la seaking.
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No it had skids and mucky green paint XZ184 to be precise. The bag was on the port side. The caption said it was definately a Searchwater 2000 bag (although it looked small than the SK) and would only have a port side view. Maybe the army is doesn't like asking 849 NAS to cover its land ops and wants its won solution.

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Saw the same article and i can confirm it does say Searchwater 2000 although as Navaleye mentioned, it does look much smaller than that fitted to the ASaC7 (Width wise).
The RN ASaC7's have been used in most of the Army's major exercises for control, the mighty Hunter has also been used recently aswell for ISTAR i presume?, both being used lately in 'Iron Storm' so is the Army opting for their own platform?
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A picture or link would help.
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Is this a wind up? Are you sure it wasn't a wescam or something?
Does the AAC have the expertise to operate Searchwater? Does the Mk 7 have the legs to carry it? Why put Searchwater in a Mk7 when you already have it in an Asac ?
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Sounds like Chancellor to me.

Used to pop into R850 and other sites now and then.
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Scroll down until you find the pic in these links:
18th May 2006 and 5th April 2006.
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This one you mean?
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Yes,
and this too.
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It's a trial anti-vibration device,

They are giving it a go ready for the future Lynx snags,,, oooh,, sorry,,, won't have any snags will it, only issues prior to service!!

Coffee, white, one please boss!
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XZ184 is on 667 D & T Sqn at Wallop. There'll be another one very similar soon on a Sea King at Boscombe Down. I could tell you what it is but then I'd have to kill you.
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I can tell you exactly what it's for.

TWA are trialling a rotary Dominos delivery service to hard-working grunts. The bag is in fact a warm storage container for the squaddies' grub.
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Just wonder when [email protected] will appear to claim army lynx doesn't carry any survelience/recce sensors? seem to have been a few mentioned here.
Mind you given the comments on searchwater radars overland performance the AAC having an Asac capability of its own might be a useful ISTAR asset. Those in the know would it be possible to run the radar from an Flynx and process the returns on the ground by datalink?

It would also release the Seaking or Merlin Asac back to its primary mission of covering the fleet.
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It's an Ego carrying bag for when Pilots of the world's finest polythene puffer jet require a lift. No room in cabin for Pilot and Ego so Ego goes outside.


Either that or the REME have discovered a cracking way of transporting beer to the troops at the front.
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Well it aint Oxbow, Chancellor or Helitele.

As has been said, it's a D&T cab so it's probably an Oogamaflip Doobery.
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The AAC is the only flying branch of the military without an ISTAR asset. I think they may have found one.
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Maybe John Prescott is due to visit troops on the front line, and this is a Prezza Pie Packup to keep his gob otherwise occupied.
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Originally Posted by Navaleye
The AAC is the only flying branch of the military without an ISTAR asset. I think they may have found one.
Maybe because the Royal Artillery were given that role with Kamakazi Phoenix. But with the optics and tele systems on lynx and to a lesser extent gazelle they are able to contribute to the ISTAR picture. Added to the EW capability and ground assets. But a dedicated maned air capability would be useful. In NI the Islander/Defender has been used and I seem to remember a proposal to fit a radar to the Islander.
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The AAC is the only flying branch of the military without an ISTAR asset
BN2T-4S AL.1 Defender This type is the only fixed-wing aircraft that the AAC operates.
The AAC BN 2 Islanders carry the Thorn EMI CASTOR (Corps Airborne Stand Off Radar) that is designed to provide intelligence information in the forward edge of the battlefield (FEBA) and beyond while operating well within friendly territory. The radar, located in the nose cone of the aircraft has a 360 degree scan and offers wide coverage against moving and static targets.
The Islander has been routinely deployed with 1 Flight AAC in Northern Ireland, and also deployed with British Army SFOR contingents in the former Yugoslavia. More recently, the Army acquired three more of the type under an Urgent Operational Requirement (UOR) for service in Iraq.
The first of these was delivered in October 2004. Defensive aids system dispensers are installed in pods under the aircraft wings to improve survivability when flying into high-threat airfields in Iraq, such as Baghdad International, Basra and Al Amara. The new aircraft have the designation BN2T-4S AL.1 Defender
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