Aircraft needed in Afghanistan
Maybe Tony could take up jogging....
http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a...28004509990004
Several wounded Soldiers and Marines have jogged with the President.
One cannot but admire their strength of character and plain old grit when you see photos like these.
Several wounded Soldiers and Marines have jogged with the President.
One cannot but admire their strength of character and plain old grit when you see photos like these.
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Shortage of Battlefield helos
A little background reading for this is contained in a recent book called "Lions led by Donkeys".
This covers several other fiascos inprocurement.
This covers several other fiascos inprocurement.
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I wish i knew how to post that link to the PM's office. I am utterly staggered that neither Tony Bliar or any of his other cronies that sent our troops to war have been able to muster the small amount of moral courage needed to visit our wounded and say 'Thank you'. Or to visit the families of our dead and offer personal condolences. I dont have a lot of time for George Dubya, but at least he has had the backbone to visit his troops, respect for that.
Jacko, can't you just get one journo to ask Bliar on camera why he has never been to visit the troops or the families. I would love to see him try and squirm out of that one
I wish i knew how to post that link to the PM's office. I am utterly staggered that neither Tony Bliar or any of his other cronies that sent our troops to war have been able to muster the small amount of moral courage needed to visit our wounded and say 'Thank you'. Or to visit the families of our dead and offer personal condolences. I dont have a lot of time for George Dubya, but at least he has had the backbone to visit his troops, respect for that.
Jacko, can't you just get one journo to ask Bliar on camera why he has never been to visit the troops or the families. I would love to see him try and squirm out of that one
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Thats because he is the head of state and Tony Blair isn't. Has our head of state every visited the sick and injured? Has our head of state every publically thanked her Armed Forces?
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No it wasn't. HM Q is our head of state and we work for her. Tony Blair also works for her...he is the head of HER government. He goes to see her every Tuesday and reports what has been upto. SHE sends HER troops into battle....Her Head of Government just does the dirty work.
HM has on many, many occasions visited her troops (although never in an operational theatre). She has also publically thanked her troops as well as privately thanking her troops. I know, she has privately thanked me for putting myself in harms way.
What you need to remember that in the US, GWB is the Numer 1 whilst in the UK, HM is the number 1 and TB is the Numer 2 (Quite apt really)
HM has on many, many occasions visited her troops (although never in an operational theatre). She has also publically thanked her troops as well as privately thanking her troops. I know, she has privately thanked me for putting myself in harms way.
What you need to remember that in the US, GWB is the Numer 1 whilst in the UK, HM is the number 1 and TB is the Numer 2 (Quite apt really)
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Do you really believe that? HM is head of state on paper and does quiz the PM every week, but the last time a monarch disagreed with the Government was the 17th Century. Blair sent our guys to war, not HM. I truely wish the decision had been left with her, we might not be missing 130 troops now. The government runs this country, not the monarchy.
Do you really believe that? HM is head of state on paper and does quiz the PM every week, but the last time a monarch disagreed with the Government was the 17th Century. Blair sent our guys to war, not HM. I truely wish the decision had been left with her, we might not be missing 130 troops now. The government runs this country, not the monarchy.
Tigs,
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, the various Chiefs, and the Chairman all take the time to visit with wounded soldiers and the families of both the wounded and killed. They do so out of a sense of duty I would think and do not make them publicity stunts. The jogging runs usually start by a soldier telling Bush that he intends to get back on his feet and run and then Bush will tell him that when the soldier or Marine is ready to run...Bush will run with them. I don't know about you but that shows a lot of goodness and a way to encourage those young men during their recuperation.
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, the various Chiefs, and the Chairman all take the time to visit with wounded soldiers and the families of both the wounded and killed. They do so out of a sense of duty I would think and do not make them publicity stunts. The jogging runs usually start by a soldier telling Bush that he intends to get back on his feet and run and then Bush will tell him that when the soldier or Marine is ready to run...Bush will run with them. I don't know about you but that shows a lot of goodness and a way to encourage those young men during their recuperation.
t about the boys when they get hurt
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Youre quite right of course but the point I was trying to make is that it is incorrect to compare GWB with TB. Its unfair to state that GWB visits his Sick and Injured whilst TB doesn't. GWB is the head of state and TB isn't.
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Youre quite right of course but the point I was trying to make is that it is incorrect to compare GWB with TB. Its unfair to state that GWB visits his Sick and Injured whilst TB doesn't. GWB is the head of state and TB isn't.
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Getting back to the theme
I assume that there aren't too many excess Hawk airframes about these days, bearing in mind the aquisition of a bundle of Alpha-Jets. So, perhaps it would be damn good PR to say nine or ten (one reserve aircraft) Hawks together with a like number of highly skilled and motivated pilots and deploy them to Afghanistan to provide counter-insurgency type support to our troops. I'm sure it would be great for morale on the ground out there and would also be a good oppoprtunity to represent Gt Britain PLC in a slightly different way to that normally employed. My final thought.. The present colour scheme is a little conspicious. Perhaps we could tone it down by a temporary over spray of sand in place of the red and grey in place of the white stripe?? Or shall we really go to town and do them in a nice grey and sand wrap around tactical scheme??
Upon their return I feel sure that the public would look on these 'Few' as being true heroes and a triumphant UK display tour would seem to be in order.
Shall I get my coat
Upon their return I feel sure that the public would look on these 'Few' as being true heroes and a triumphant UK display tour would seem to be in order.
Shall I get my coat
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Navaleye - come on on the tail end of the conversation did we?
Here's a thought - send all the Jags to Mount Pleasant (not hot and not very high either) and recall the F3s. Once the Jags go end of life create a scrapping business for the locals. By that time maybe all of the oil fields will be surveyed and/or sucked dry and the island can be left for the Argies...
just a thought
Here's a thought - send all the Jags to Mount Pleasant (not hot and not very high either) and recall the F3s. Once the Jags go end of life create a scrapping business for the locals. By that time maybe all of the oil fields will be surveyed and/or sucked dry and the island can be left for the Argies...
just a thought