What is a Bluntie?
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Most of the "prevention of flying" and "Oops! We blew that procurement exercise" or "JPA sounds like a good idea", decsisions actually come from General Duties officers on a staff tour.
Ground based personnel and aircrew who are - temporarily - on flying tours simply have to get on with it and war amongst themselves while those responsible eventually slip back into the 'pointy' end and join in the attack on the "blunties" (or else they get promoted to air rank and move to a higher level of criticism).
Ground based personnel and aircrew who are - temporarily - on flying tours simply have to get on with it and war amongst themselves while those responsible eventually slip back into the 'pointy' end and join in the attack on the "blunties" (or else they get promoted to air rank and move to a higher level of criticism).
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My take on Blunties, isn't so much their trade, its their outstanding ability to stand in the way of operational success, and screwing others around.
Some Blunties are tip-top - whatever you want from them, you get it. No fuss, no moaning, just get the job done, great. Others however, are less accomodating, and its these that I regard as Blunties. We've all had them, the idiot storeman who can't let you have the last flying suit, 'cos I won't have any left then!' The scribbly Bluntie (probably the worst offender) in handbrake house 'oh sorry Sir, we can't do that for 3 months 'cos we are undermanned!' Yeh right, and what about the 20 blunties over there doing nothing?
Yes, I know that anyone not at the sharp end is technically a Bluntie, but the real ones are those intent on f$£%*ng things up for others! (Scribblies, Rocks, PTIs, Medics, Oh the list goes on!!!!)
Kind regards to all, even some Blunties
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Some Blunties are tip-top - whatever you want from them, you get it. No fuss, no moaning, just get the job done, great. Others however, are less accomodating, and its these that I regard as Blunties. We've all had them, the idiot storeman who can't let you have the last flying suit, 'cos I won't have any left then!' The scribbly Bluntie (probably the worst offender) in handbrake house 'oh sorry Sir, we can't do that for 3 months 'cos we are undermanned!' Yeh right, and what about the 20 blunties over there doing nothing?
Yes, I know that anyone not at the sharp end is technically a Bluntie, but the real ones are those intent on f$£%*ng things up for others! (Scribblies, Rocks, PTIs, Medics, Oh the list goes on!!!!)
Kind regards to all, even some Blunties
TSM
'Caruthers, standby for some serious poo coming our way old boy!'
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Originally Posted by The Swinging Monkey
its their outstanding ability to stand in the way of operational success, and screwing others around.
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I never wanted to be a bluntie so I formed my own clique comprising of spanner monkeys. Our primary task was to sit out the back of a HAS and smoke tabs whilst lounging in the sun letting the OM15 soak through the overalls into my skin. The skill to avoid the rects controller was a necessity as well as being able to drink a brew before a task, after a task and before the next task.
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Tsk, tsk. Be careful which road you go down or you will find yourselves in a politically correct, corporate mentality where we strive to ensure everyone's self-importance is realised. Want an example, look to the USAF. 
It started simply enough - someone thought the corporate concept of quality should apply to the Air Force. Sounds good in theory, but then you get those silly "mission statements" & "vision statements" - even our mission - 'Fly, Fight, & Win' - has devolved into a page & a half of rambling non-sense about 'dominating the air & space regime through leverage of technology...blah, blah, blah' The problem with most of these "mission statements" is they end at the office door ('We want to be the best finance office'). They need to keep working through the mission sets until they get to 'Fly, Fight, & Win' to see where they fit in the grand scheme of things.
The result of all this is blunties who no longer understand why they exist. The fact is, yes, everyone is important & we're all just cogs in the wheel, but there must be a priority of effort. If I see one more customer service-oriented agency who has altered their hours to 0930-1530 w/2hr lunch & closed on Wed for internal training to "better serve the customer" I'm going to go postal.
The simple reality is that there are only two types of military relationships between any individual/organization/unit/agency - supporting & supported. Sometimes you're one, other times you're the other. The trick is to know which you are when & do your J-O-B. It's not rocket science...
As an operator, I don't fly airplanes so engineering will have something to work on, controllers have something to control, or accounting will have someone to screw over.
It is quite the opposite. This, in no way, diminshes their importance, but should put it into the perspective of priority.
Unfortunately, in today's USAF, we worry too much about people's feelings, their familiy lives, & self-esteem & we end up with customer-support agencies that don't.
It started simply enough - someone thought the corporate concept of quality should apply to the Air Force. Sounds good in theory, but then you get those silly "mission statements" & "vision statements" - even our mission - 'Fly, Fight, & Win' - has devolved into a page & a half of rambling non-sense about 'dominating the air & space regime through leverage of technology...blah, blah, blah' The problem with most of these "mission statements" is they end at the office door ('We want to be the best finance office'). They need to keep working through the mission sets until they get to 'Fly, Fight, & Win' to see where they fit in the grand scheme of things.
The result of all this is blunties who no longer understand why they exist. The fact is, yes, everyone is important & we're all just cogs in the wheel, but there must be a priority of effort. If I see one more customer service-oriented agency who has altered their hours to 0930-1530 w/2hr lunch & closed on Wed for internal training to "better serve the customer" I'm going to go postal.
The simple reality is that there are only two types of military relationships between any individual/organization/unit/agency - supporting & supported. Sometimes you're one, other times you're the other. The trick is to know which you are when & do your J-O-B. It's not rocket science...
As an operator, I don't fly airplanes so engineering will have something to work on, controllers have something to control, or accounting will have someone to screw over.
It is quite the opposite. This, in no way, diminshes their importance, but should put it into the perspective of priority.Unfortunately, in today's USAF, we worry too much about people's feelings, their familiy lives, & self-esteem & we end up with customer-support agencies that don't.
Of course it is only the Air Farce that cowtow to their two winged master race. The other two more Senior Services have ensured that aviators are considered as just another weapon system, to be used at the whim of those who really fight the battle! I suppose by listening to some of the rhetoric on here, as Truckies do not project power, they could be classed as blunties as well. In seriousness, it is this type of attitude, held by some not all, that anyone whose arse is strapped to the ground/ship/tank has nothing to offer, is the singlemost barrier to operating as a combined, effective force!
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Widger - I think you'll find that the Army has a habit of putting 'teeth arm' types at the top - because that is their business.
The RN tends to put the deck officer type at the top - because that is their business.
Oh looky - each seems to put the person they perceive as the pinnacle of their environmental speciality at the top. Get with it chap
The RN tends to put the deck officer type at the top - because that is their business.
Oh looky - each seems to put the person they perceive as the pinnacle of their environmental speciality at the top. Get with it chap
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As I have said before, all hail to the SH force and the Mud Movers, just think that the rest of you have got a bit of a cheek calling those of those that can't or don't want to fly blunties. And yes there are people in the RAF who didn't join to be pilots and werent just chopped from fg trg! Hook, Line and Sinker.
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To a Harrier pilot, everyone else in the raf is a bluntie,
To fast jet aircrew, all other aircrew + all groundtrades are blunties,
To TAC transport Aircrew, 'shiny' aircrew and all groundtrades are blunties,
To all aircrew, all groundtrades are blunties.
The rest are all blunties, so don't have an opinion worth listening to!
To fast jet aircrew, all other aircrew + all groundtrades are blunties,
To TAC transport Aircrew, 'shiny' aircrew and all groundtrades are blunties,
To all aircrew, all groundtrades are blunties.
The rest are all blunties, so don't have an opinion worth listening to!
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Originally Posted by Deliverance
TalktotheHand,
Whats your beef with AD. They do QRA, were involved in Telic, with CAPs in Iraq this time and the jet looks particulary sharp and pointy!
Anyway, blunties in the RAF = non-aircrew who do not go sausage side during a shooting war.
Whats your beef with AD. They do QRA, were involved in Telic, with CAPs in Iraq this time and the jet looks particulary sharp and pointy!
Anyway, blunties in the RAF = non-aircrew who do not go sausage side during a shooting war.
In these days of the manoeuvrist approach and asymmetric warfare that result in a non-contiguous battlespace, is there a sausage side in a modern shooting war (where is the FLOT)? I seem to recall a certain US lady in a supply convoy getting involved in a contact well behind the lead elements of the coalition land forces.
Can I claim house on doctrinal bullsh1t bingo now
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Originally Posted by Climebear
Can I claim house on doctrinal bullsh1t bingo nowLast edited by Confucius; 23rd Jun 2006 at 22:19.
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If we accept that the aircraft (whatever shape) is the sharp end, then those closest to it are the sharpest, those furthest away the bluntest.
The 'sharp end' is where the action happens, life gets blunter the further back you are from that.
Wonder who's the sharpest on a UAV squadron?
The 'sharp end' is where the action happens, life gets blunter the further back you are from that.
Wonder who's the sharpest on a UAV squadron?