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Old 13th Jun 2006, 13:44
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tucano cockpit

Does anyone have any pictures of a tucano cockpit? Including side panels?

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Airliners.net does (main panel only here)
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Yeah thanks for that, need the whole panel and side ones too if anyone could please help?

Its for a project i'm building, as a civi though i doubt linton on ouse would be too keen on me looking around one of theirs.
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PF

If you PM me with the details of your project i may be able to get you the cardboard mock up if you so wish. It includes the side panels too. Not 100% sure but i'll give it a go if you so wish?

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Why do you want the cockpit of a tincan just out of interest.

I bet there are a few cardboard cockpits on e-bay, there and of course every baggage room at Linton is full of the bloody things
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Hi there its actually not for me, but for an project a friend is running. Something to do with constructing a cockpit etc. The only one he could find is listed above.

Not sure a Cardboard one would help as need colours, texture etc.

Any clues?

Many thanks PK
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You want get better than the cardboard cockpit, it's very accurate in all respects. Write to the CCO at Linton, you may be surprised, its all good PR, it's not classsified and a good way to recycle an old cockpit. Failing that, find one at an airshow and ask to take your own pics

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Yeah thanks, a cardboard one might be a good idea however i think its more the colours of switches etc hes looking for.
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Better hurry if you want a cardboard one. I hear in the next round of cuts they'll all be converted to flying status.
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however i think its more the colours of switches etc hes looking for.
The cardboard ones have that level of detail.
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Originally Posted by PinkFlyer
Does anyone have any pictures of a tucano cockpit? Including side panels?
PM if you wish.
Cheers Pink
Pink - all being well you should have a PM and pictures in about 10 minutes...

edit - PM now sent for you to access the photobucket album with the photos...

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If he's doing this for a human factors/ergonomics project he'll love the Tucano! Is the flap lever still disguised as the ESDL?

Whilst i was at BFJTS the FAF brought their Tucanos across for a period, now that cockpit was simply elegant.
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Hot Charlie - check your pm's please

Regards
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How on earth can you get it wrong?

The undercarriage lever is shaped like a wheel. You slap it down, and wheels appear. It's in front of your left knee, and you can't miss it, not even with the Chief Flying Instructor in the back seat.

The flap lever is designed to look like a flap. So when you push it backwards(which equates to down on planet pilot) it makes flaps go down.

So far, so good.

Put this lever next to half way down your left thigh. (OK, it's a 'feel' job, not great, but work-able)

Now place the ENGINE SHUT OFF LEVER (Soz for shouting) inches aft of the flap lever, and similarly shaped, and what do you get?


A whole world of silence on short finals. Solved in retrospect by a metal guard, but ergonomically, in this day and age, it should not have been designed like that.
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I've often wondered how good our anglicised adaption of the Tucano was.
Dare I suggest that we aren't that big and should swallow our pride and buy 'off the shelf' ? Just look at the delays with the Apache... Different to every other one in service with our allies. Did we really need to put different engines in the Phantom, necessitating a redesigned fuselage?

The list is long.... (Reminds me of a line in TopGun )

No wonder there's never enough kit to go around !
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The other great idea for the UK Tucano was that if you applied power then you quite simply HAD to apply a load of boot for very boring aerodynamic reasons. No other Tucano user had to, because they all had automatic rudder trim - but we had to because some grave-dodger had had to do it in the Sopwith Pup and therefore it was the law.

Great bit of thinking given that it was there to feed the Hawk, which doesn't have that snag for very obvious reasons.
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Quite right Orca.

Auto rudder trim dispensed with on financial grounds. I always had to suppress a guffaw whenever Pilot's Notes or blurb referred to Tucano's 'jet-like' handling qualities.
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