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No, it is real, but at least no one here has claimed that the aircraft in the picture was a TU-95 like someone in another fourm.
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I think you could be right, even the 1st pic looks wrong now. Not being too familiar with the B52, does anyone know how fast it would have to fly to achieve that deck angle? (unless it's a model)
If it is a fake, it was a good spoof, and I like the artwork in the 3rd pic - well done western_roo.
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I think you could be right, even the 1st pic looks wrong now. Not being too familiar with the B52, does anyone know how fast it would have to fly to achieve that deck angle? (unless it's a model)
If it is a fake, it was a good spoof, and I like the artwork in the 3rd pic - well done western_roo.
rts
Excerpt from an e-mail of a witness to the fly-by
The writer of this e-mail is a Naval Aviator and S-3 Viking Pilot who witnessed the event.
This picture is real because I witnessed this flyby personally.
This picture was taken in the spring of 1990 as we started our deployment to the Persian Gulf.
I was up in the "tower" with the air boss as the Viking squadron rep for the launch/recovery and these Buff drivers (2 of them) called that they were at 8 miles for a flyby.
They had been 'orange air' for a big war - at - sea exercise we were doing When they called 5 miles the boss said "we don't see you" and we heard back "look low".
Out on the water we saw this smoke trail first, (the planes merged with the color of the water) at about a 1-2 miles we could break them out and the two buffs came by at 20-30 feet off the water splitting the ship at about 350kts. Then they pulled up and did a big plan form 180 and said "do you want to see that again" - The air boss said "hell yea" so they went back out an did it again.
It was the only time in my 20 year career that I have seen any services jets purposely flying below flight deck level.
One of my reserve buddies showed me this picture this weekend and I got all excited about it. It was always one of those moments at sea that I had talked about.
This picture was taken in the spring of 1990 as we started our deployment to the Persian Gulf.
I was up in the "tower" with the air boss as the Viking squadron rep for the launch/recovery and these Buff drivers (2 of them) called that they were at 8 miles for a flyby.
They had been 'orange air' for a big war - at - sea exercise we were doing When they called 5 miles the boss said "we don't see you" and we heard back "look low".
Out on the water we saw this smoke trail first, (the planes merged with the color of the water) at about a 1-2 miles we could break them out and the two buffs came by at 20-30 feet off the water splitting the ship at about 350kts. Then they pulled up and did a big plan form 180 and said "do you want to see that again" - The air boss said "hell yea" so they went back out an did it again.
It was the only time in my 20 year career that I have seen any services jets purposely flying below flight deck level.
One of my reserve buddies showed me this picture this weekend and I got all excited about it. It was always one of those moments at sea that I had talked about.
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different perspective.
The view from the ship has a relatively small B-52, whereas the reverse shot has a B-52 relatively near to the ship, the relative sizes don't look correct.
Associated with that the nose down attitude is roughly the same in both shots, what are the odds that a shipborne photographer and someone in a helicopter (?) would take a photo at the same time ?
I doubt it
Associated with that the nose down attitude is roughly the same in both shots, what are the odds that a shipborne photographer and someone in a helicopter (?) would take a photo at the same time ?
I doubt it
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Sorry my money is on a cold war model drone or something.
OK so I have never flown or been involved with the B52, only been in a C5 once for the 'pleasure'
of a ferry trip e/s/e of here. other than that the biggest high wing i have flown is an islander.
But surely at that level in a real size B52, there would some obvious flex in the wing and the signature 8 trails of black smoke from a B52 under thrust.
As for sworn statement
OK so I have never flown or been involved with the B52, only been in a C5 once for the 'pleasure'
of a ferry trip e/s/e of here. other than that the biggest high wing i have flown is an islander.But surely at that level in a real size B52, there would some obvious flex in the wing and the signature 8 trails of black smoke from a B52 under thrust.
As for sworn statement
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What are you talking about flex for.....????
Altitude has no effect on flex.
On exercise, no bombs, lightweight, no G being pulled = minimum flex
A drone B52 the size of a B52. So this is more likely than a lowish pass
Altitude has no effect on flex.
On exercise, no bombs, lightweight, no G being pulled = minimum flex
A drone B52 the size of a B52. So this is more likely than a lowish pass
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Not bad going in that beast - and he's still descending, I reckon. He's obviously not bothered about his career - or his life!!
The ejection thing - up, down or sideways - is all a bit academic. If you have a mechanical problem you pull up (flight controls permitting). If you hit the sea......fini!
The ejection thing - up, down or sideways - is all a bit academic. If you have a mechanical problem you pull up (flight controls permitting). If you hit the sea......fini!
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B-52 flight profile.
Take a look at the Buff at RIAT this year. When he does his fast pass you will see all the way along the upper fuselage. Going slow it exhibits a fairly level attitude but at speed the damn thing looks wierd. Oh, and the wings stick out sideways in a very straight and conventional manner too! (Mind you, the Lancer will probably set off all the car alarms again!
Take a look at the Buff at RIAT this year. When he does his fast pass you will see all the way along the upper fuselage. Going slow it exhibits a fairly level attitude but at speed the damn thing looks wierd. Oh, and the wings stick out sideways in a very straight and conventional manner too! (Mind you, the Lancer will probably set off all the car alarms again!
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Flexing as anything that big with fuel onboard would when you pull up after having passed the carrier after your stupid stunt.
No when i said model, i meant a smaller one obviously
Like something from the stories I was told about cold war 'bear toys'
No when i said model, i meant a smaller one obviously
Like something from the stories I was told about cold war 'bear toys'
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It was the only time in my 20 year career that I have seen any services jets purposely flying below flight deck level.
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I have a photograph (given to me by my father) of a Bucc flying with its wingtip between the tails? of an F15 taken at Nellis in '79. Don't ask, Don't tell. Will post it when I get home.
And yes, I still think that the jockeys were the dogs b@ll@@cks.
And yes, I still wish I could have been good enough to have done it for a living too......
And yes, I still think that the jockeys were the dogs b@ll@@cks.
And yes, I still wish I could have been good enough to have done it for a living too......
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Originally Posted by BEagle
Below the flight deck level of one of those floating leviathans of the US Navy is hardly a challenge; below the deck level of one the the RN's little armoured rowing boats certainly would be though!
Ranger is a Forrestal class boat, and has a flight deck height above the waterline of 61 feet. After 15 minutes of Googling various combinations of "Invincible, flight deck, and height", I got zip. However, I don't see it being much less than 50 feet, if that low. I vaguely remember as a boy on a boat trip round Pompey harbour, seeing the then new Invincible, and it seemed very tall, even in comparison with the Bulwark moored out in the harbour.
Google also revealed that the BUFF is 40ft 8 inches in height. Minus say 8 ft for undercarriage, and that makes it just over 30 ft tall in flight. With a wingspan of 185 feet, that flyby seems dodgy as hell!
Note to self: get out more!
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For entertainment purposes, you might want to check out the following link... there's some interesting "low level" footage, taken from the back seat of a Tonka, about 2:54 into the video.
Screengrabs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJV-3Pto0Kg
Screengrabs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJV-3Pto0Kg
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buffs that low?, I don't think so.
The photos are definitely showing that aura of the faked image. Don't be taken in by these jealous Yanks that can't hack it at less than 1000 ft,let alone less than 50. I've had a trip in a jag, our rejoin to circuit was carried out as less than 50 ft( I was poling it a 400 Hr glider pilot), all the way from star wars canyon, bitching betty got turned off well before that. We had to pull up to do the run in and break. As an aside,as we were turning finals my driver kept telling me to pull back harder, which confused me as the stick was definitely in danger of crushing my b***s. It turned out that the t-birds have a much further forward c.g (still within limits) and should be landed with less than full flap.
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Originally Posted by buttrick
The photos are definitely showing that aura of the faked image. Don't be taken in by these jealous Yanks that can't hack it at less than 1000 ft,let alone less than 50. I've had a trip in a jag,Join Date: Jan 2001
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http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photoga...bomber%202.wmv
About two thirds through you see the idiot that crashed going really low.
Probably a model as well
About two thirds through you see the idiot that crashed going really low.
Probably a model as well
