AFGHANISTAN - Do We Never Take In The Lessons From History?
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SASless,
I do recall seeing on television not so long ago a susbstantial crowd of American Christian zeolots who made it their mission to stand by the roadside and cheer.
All very nice, but they people they cheered were the passing funeral processions of HIV/AIDS victims.
Apparently gods justice had been done.
I guess Christians all hate freedom then?
I do recall seeing on television not so long ago a susbstantial crowd of American Christian zeolots who made it their mission to stand by the roadside and cheer.
All very nice, but they people they cheered were the passing funeral processions of HIV/AIDS victims.
Apparently gods justice had been done.
I guess Christians all hate freedom then?
Boogie,
Sadly there are some that look for broader agendas when responding to posts.
They at times have personal issues that motivate their reactions to events that then find their way into the discussion here.
Dave missed the point being made and attempts to take the discussion away from the matter at hand. He ignores my objection to dealing with zealots as I consider it hopeless in that the zealots will not listen nor understand. At no time did I suggest all Muslims are zealots. He took that upon himself I suppose by his comments.
The Westboro Baptist Church bunch Dave and An T refer to are just that zealots. In previous posts and one thread I started here....I went on record noting how dispicable those folks are. I am deeply offended by their tactic (WBC) of protesting at funerals of servicemen killed in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan. An T I imagine has other reasons to object to WBC and their activities.
The important point both Dave an An T should acknowledge.....as objectionable as the WBC folks are....they are using their freedom of speech rights to protest. The Muslims in the other photograph are decrying the very freedom that allows them to protest. If they had their way...there would be no freedom of speech and thus they would no longer be able to protest.
That seems simple enough for rational minds to discern from what has been said.
To answer your question Dave....if it were legal I would remove the WBC and all its members from this life. However, they are within their rights to believe and think in this country due to our concept of Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion as our laws allow. Try that under Sharia Law and see what happens to you?
Sadly there are some that look for broader agendas when responding to posts.
They at times have personal issues that motivate their reactions to events that then find their way into the discussion here.
Dave missed the point being made and attempts to take the discussion away from the matter at hand. He ignores my objection to dealing with zealots as I consider it hopeless in that the zealots will not listen nor understand. At no time did I suggest all Muslims are zealots. He took that upon himself I suppose by his comments.
The Westboro Baptist Church bunch Dave and An T refer to are just that zealots. In previous posts and one thread I started here....I went on record noting how dispicable those folks are. I am deeply offended by their tactic (WBC) of protesting at funerals of servicemen killed in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan. An T I imagine has other reasons to object to WBC and their activities.
The important point both Dave an An T should acknowledge.....as objectionable as the WBC folks are....they are using their freedom of speech rights to protest. The Muslims in the other photograph are decrying the very freedom that allows them to protest. If they had their way...there would be no freedom of speech and thus they would no longer be able to protest.
That seems simple enough for rational minds to discern from what has been said.
To answer your question Dave....if it were legal I would remove the WBC and all its members from this life. However, they are within their rights to believe and think in this country due to our concept of Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion as our laws allow. Try that under Sharia Law and see what happens to you?
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With my gay hat on (prior to their new-found love of IEDs and protesting at Mil funerals) I found Phelps' WBC laughable and largely constituting the blindingly obvious rantings of a classic self-loathing closet homosexual.
With my ex-Mil hat on, I find the whole 'We love IEDs' and funeral protest thing objectionable in the extreme.
Either way, I think whatever the gay lobby group is in the USA should give him an award as the man who has probably done more than any to advance the 'gay agenda' in the USA.
As for UK (or USA) muslims wishing to introduce Shariah law in the UK or USA, I would gladly see my taxes used to transport them to Saudi / Iran / Pakistan or wherever where they can hang, stone and mutilate each other to their heart's content.
With my gay hat on (prior to their new-found love of IEDs and protesting at Mil funerals) I found Phelps' WBC laughable and largely constituting the blindingly obvious rantings of a classic self-loathing closet homosexual.
With my ex-Mil hat on, I find the whole 'We love IEDs' and funeral protest thing objectionable in the extreme.
Either way, I think whatever the gay lobby group is in the USA should give him an award as the man who has probably done more than any to advance the 'gay agenda' in the USA.
As for UK (or USA) muslims wishing to introduce Shariah law in the UK or USA, I would gladly see my taxes used to transport them to Saudi / Iran / Pakistan or wherever where they can hang, stone and mutilate each other to their heart's content.
An T,
I have suggested over a few pints of beer at the Legion Hall, the way to deal with the WBC crowd would be for the Gay Pride bunch to attend church....with the Reverend Phelps....by the thousands! Hopefully, they (the Gay Pride bunch) would be Penecostals who believe in the "laying on of hands".
On a serious note, people with such warped views as WBC and religious whacko's that believe in killing and cutting off heads as a way to salvation worry me more than a little. Equally disturbing is the fact so many of our fellows attempt to mitigate what these extremists do in the name of religion.
The old saying here is "your freedom ends where my nose starts!" holds more than ever. They can believe what they care too....but when they (the zealots) harm others then they should be reined in however it has to be done.
I have suggested over a few pints of beer at the Legion Hall, the way to deal with the WBC crowd would be for the Gay Pride bunch to attend church....with the Reverend Phelps....by the thousands! Hopefully, they (the Gay Pride bunch) would be Penecostals who believe in the "laying on of hands".
On a serious note, people with such warped views as WBC and religious whacko's that believe in killing and cutting off heads as a way to salvation worry me more than a little. Equally disturbing is the fact so many of our fellows attempt to mitigate what these extremists do in the name of religion.
The old saying here is "your freedom ends where my nose starts!" holds more than ever. They can believe what they care too....but when they (the zealots) harm others then they should be reined in however it has to be done.
