Typhoon
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Typhoon
Love it, loathe it, want it or not Typhoon is here to stay
Some very good footage here.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/115274...ghter_typhoon/
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PS, Is there any chance that a Mil Aircrew forum Good Video thread could be started up. It may have been done before but I cant find one.
Some very good footage here.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/115274...ghter_typhoon/
Talk Wrench
PS, Is there any chance that a Mil Aircrew forum Good Video thread could be started up. It may have been done before but I cant find one.
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From: Just behind the back of beyond....
Top Bunk,
And what would we say that about?
Apart from:
Those FRS1s in the Falklands. That Chinook in the Falklands. The TIALD Tornados in Granby. ALARM. The TIALD Jags in Bosnia. The Canberra PR9s and R1s in Afghanistan. Storm Shadow in Telic. The Merlins in Iraq? Tankers again and again and again.
As a deployable, affordable, multi-role fast jet I'd suggest that there's as much chance of Typhoon providing a life-saving "what we need exactly when we need it" as there is of anything else doing so.
JTO, RIDIM,
Without picking holes, BAE did that. Weren't 17 supposed to have banged off an AIM-120 or two by now, following their ASRAAM successes last year?
And what would we say that about?
Apart from:
Those FRS1s in the Falklands. That Chinook in the Falklands. The TIALD Tornados in Granby. ALARM. The TIALD Jags in Bosnia. The Canberra PR9s and R1s in Afghanistan. Storm Shadow in Telic. The Merlins in Iraq? Tankers again and again and again.
As a deployable, affordable, multi-role fast jet I'd suggest that there's as much chance of Typhoon providing a life-saving "what we need exactly when we need it" as there is of anything else doing so.
JTO, RIDIM,
Without picking holes, BAE did that. Weren't 17 supposed to have banged off an AIM-120 or two by now, following their ASRAAM successes last year?
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From: London
I don't think anyone would deny that Typhoon is a vast improvement on what the RAF has now, and will in various low-medium threat environments prove useful in the future (obviously high-threat will require stealth and/or UCAVs), but isn't the real question, do we really need all 232 of them? Surely tranches 1 & 2 will suffice for the RAF's needs? Wouldn't the tranche 3 money be better spent on tankers, transports, some sort of nascent U(C) AV capability? Or maybe even (perish the thought) decent kit for the army?
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Jackinoko, you forgot the Buccaneers in Granby and the Vulcan/Victor, esp the Victor.
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Everyone to their own, Jacko, but 'successful' would not be the words that I would use for the RAF's equipment during said ops.
'Sufficient' arguably - then again that is all Brit taxpayers need, but the cost and functionality of some of the BWOS stuff Vs 'allied equivalent - off the shelf products' is questionable.
Point of note was Bucc with 'old' stuff in 1991 doing pretty much what TIALD does now!
'Sufficient' arguably - then again that is all Brit taxpayers need, but the cost and functionality of some of the BWOS stuff Vs 'allied equivalent - off the shelf products' is questionable.
Point of note was Bucc with 'old' stuff in 1991 doing pretty much what TIALD does now!
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From: Just behind the back of beyond....
I was just thrashing round for
"Thank God we had those, then" moments.
And there really weren't many, which was kind of the point.
Only a handful were also examples of equipment that performed better than anything anyone else had at the time. (R1, PR9 with RADEOS, [ul]Jag[/ul]/TIALD - what a hit rate they had in Bosnia!).
Though actually, of the examples given, most were rather more than adequate, though some of the Gramby stuff was significant because it was there at all, not because it performed flawlessly (TIALD/Tornado, ALARM).
"Thank God we had those, then" moments.
And there really weren't many, which was kind of the point.
Only a handful were also examples of equipment that performed better than anything anyone else had at the time. (R1, PR9 with RADEOS, [ul]Jag[/ul]/TIALD - what a hit rate they had in Bosnia!).
Though actually, of the examples given, most were rather more than adequate, though some of the Gramby stuff was significant because it was there at all, not because it performed flawlessly (TIALD/Tornado, ALARM).
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I would like to say in 10 years time Typhoon was a superb airshow display but we never saw what it was like operationally because we never needed to deploy it operationally!
But I hope in 10 years time we are happy with its operational performance and when it comes to be replaced it is treated with affection and its successor criticised for not being able to do what Typhoon can do now.
But I hope in 10 years time we are happy with its operational performance and when it comes to be replaced it is treated with affection and its successor criticised for not being able to do what Typhoon can do now.
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Originally Posted by NURSE
But I hope ..... its successor [is] criticised for not being able to do what Typhoon can do now.
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Ultimate w!lly waving competition?
FJ booked for RIAT this year (so far) are .....
F-15C (West Coast demo team)
USN F-18 (Ric Traven again - should be good)
F-16 from 306 Sqn
Slovak Mig-29 (the thrust vectoring OVT thing)
Gripen
Swiss Hornet
.... and a Spanish Typhoon.
All in the air over EGVA on the same day. Might solve a lot of arguments!
F-15C (West Coast demo team)
USN F-18 (Ric Traven again - should be good)
F-16 from 306 Sqn
Slovak Mig-29 (the thrust vectoring OVT thing)
Gripen
Swiss Hornet
.... and a Spanish Typhoon.
All in the air over EGVA on the same day. Might solve a lot of arguments!
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Slovak Mig-29 (the thrust vectoring OVT thing)
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Oh Very True
Originally Posted by tonyosborne
...a company demonstrator over for Farnborough- should produce a wacky display...
It's a breath-taking display though, even better than any of the TVC Russians we've seen before (believe it). So if it does make it to F'boro do go and see it...
...but early in the week.
VC
