RAF JPA Rollout
Joined: Oct 2001
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From: Near a castle!
Oh well, after being not paid properly last month, I have been checking this month, and I am 2 GYH short (both have been waiting to be paid, and one has been approved for 6 weeks), and get this.... my pay next Wed will be £400! Nice touch JPA 
Joined: Mar 2005
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From: England
Saw my pay statement for May online today, before it strangely vanished after 1600?!?
Once AGAIN: No flying pay and basic wrong.
I was told in April I would be paid it at the end of the month, I wasn't.
I was told in the first week of May I'd be paid it at the end of that week, I wasn't.
I was told in mid-May I'd be paid it in the May pay-roll, looks like I won't be.
I've spoken to JPAC and to PSF (or HR or whatever), no joy. I submitted a Service Request on 9th May, detailing everything from pay, to LSA wrong, place of work incorrect etc and it's still marked as new!!! That means it's not even been read yet!!! The title is "April 06 Pay - Flying/Basic Pay incorrect.
I'm out of ideas. I don't know who to speak to, I think I've done all I can do along the proper channels. I also know of at least 5 other people who still haven't been paid flying pay!!!
I've also read the articles about how JPA is a success etc..... Well, not for those of us raiding our savings account to go food shopping!!!!!!!!!!!
Once AGAIN: No flying pay and basic wrong.
I was told in April I would be paid it at the end of the month, I wasn't.
I was told in the first week of May I'd be paid it at the end of that week, I wasn't.
I was told in mid-May I'd be paid it in the May pay-roll, looks like I won't be.
I've spoken to JPAC and to PSF (or HR or whatever), no joy. I submitted a Service Request on 9th May, detailing everything from pay, to LSA wrong, place of work incorrect etc and it's still marked as new!!! That means it's not even been read yet!!! The title is "April 06 Pay - Flying/Basic Pay incorrect.
I'm out of ideas. I don't know who to speak to, I think I've done all I can do along the proper channels. I also know of at least 5 other people who still haven't been paid flying pay!!!
I've also read the articles about how JPA is a success etc..... Well, not for those of us raiding our savings account to go food shopping!!!!!!!!!!!
Joined: Jan 2001
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From: Recaptured & serving time @ ISK
Complain or its a success
Sid
My every sympathies with your plight but, as I've encouraged others affected, you need to complain; otherwise the world of officaldom will say 'We've had no complaints so everything is OK'. There's no guarantee that your issue will be sorted but its the only leverage you've got.
All speilling mistakes are cos i went too a comprehensife
My every sympathies with your plight but, as I've encouraged others affected, you need to complain; otherwise the world of officaldom will say 'We've had no complaints so everything is OK'. There's no guarantee that your issue will be sorted but its the only leverage you've got.
All speilling mistakes are cos i went too a comprehensife
Joined: Nov 2000
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From: Far far away
There are, allegedly, 43 people who have not yet received April's flying pay. I am one, Sid makes 2.......
Oh, found this too:
http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/9A0A8...eqmay06_03.pdf
Oh, found this too:
http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/9A0A8...eqmay06_03.pdf
Joined: May 2004
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From: Sunny Lincs
Didn't get my flying pay on last months initial pay slip but got it on time following a further pay run. Assumed all would be well this time. How foolish of me! Flying pay included this time but at a lower rate than last time and have had a chunk taken back as JPA thinks (incorrectly) that my rate was wrong last month 
Joined: Jun 2001
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From: UK
I'm sorry to interrupt this littany of woe, but, except for the initial 3-week hiatus, I have had no problems with JPA. While it is unfortunate some people have experienced pay deficiencies, I wonder how these compare with the incidence of pay deficiencies in a bad month, pre-JPA.
All in all, I find JPA to be a pretty efficient system. Sorry.
All in all, I find JPA to be a pretty efficient system. Sorry.
Joined: May 2006
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From: Lytham
£400 down this month, guess the wife will have to put in a few (lots) of hours overtime again.
Told JPAC, PSF/HR etc. and got told not to bother them until after the pay re-run. Guess I'll have to wait until after the bank holiday now.
Bring back the mid month pay-chit!
Told JPAC, PSF/HR etc. and got told not to bother them until after the pay re-run. Guess I'll have to wait until after the bank holiday now.
Bring back the mid month pay-chit!
Joined: Dec 1998
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From: Canada
No PAYE or NIC shown on deductions, however some random number has been deducted to leave me about £200 shorter than normal (relative to a 30 day month). My HR bod has been told not to help with pay issues by his bosses and JPAC refer me back to my HR bod. I have raised an SR, but these seem to disappear into the ether.
Who is actually responsible for calculating and actioning our pay? Errors in pay of this magnitude and frequency is not acceptable under any system and If these issues are not correctly and promptly resolved, a formal letter will be on its way to the Staish.
Who is actually responsible for calculating and actioning our pay? Errors in pay of this magnitude and frequency is not acceptable under any system and If these issues are not correctly and promptly resolved, a formal letter will be on its way to the Staish.
Joined: Feb 2001
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Like Scud-U-Like, after initial frustrations, pay admin appears OK and my slip does show NI & PAYE. Haven't had to do BSA or Disturbance yet so keeping many things crossed. Most of my competencies and educ, fitness, CCS are wrong and I can't change them but my desk officer knows the score. HAve given up on the request for info submitted many weeks ago.
Joined: Feb 2006
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From: A lot closer to the sea
Have just heard that according to JPA my boss is qualified to fly Harriers and Jags, despite being an engineer and never having flown in his life! He's just off to Coningsby to blag a trip!
If JPA says, it must be true!
If JPA says, it must be true!
Joined: May 2006
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From: UK
SidHolding,
Believe me, I understand and feel your frustration. I am also one of those aircrew with no FP for the month of April nor indeed a payslip. I first complained on 2nd May and have had no useful feedback since although I am told that it should be correct on 31st May. My WO tells me that the subject was raised at a recent WO's conference where the assurance was still given that all aircrew were paid by the middle of may.
But just to cheer you up. I recently sold a property that I'd used an LSAP advance towards buying. MOD quite rightly put a legal charge on the property which means when the place is sold, they get their money back after the mortgage lender. My solicitor wrote to the MOD some 6 weeks ago and has still not received a reply. He is still suffering from the JPAC telephone hold and has got nowhere chasing up the issue. What this means to me is that I've got £45k sat in my solicitors bank that I cannot touch until the MOD has been paid back and obviously he can't do that until they tell him how much I owe them!!!
Best of luck to all on the next pay day.....
Believe me, I understand and feel your frustration. I am also one of those aircrew with no FP for the month of April nor indeed a payslip. I first complained on 2nd May and have had no useful feedback since although I am told that it should be correct on 31st May. My WO tells me that the subject was raised at a recent WO's conference where the assurance was still given that all aircrew were paid by the middle of may.
But just to cheer you up. I recently sold a property that I'd used an LSAP advance towards buying. MOD quite rightly put a legal charge on the property which means when the place is sold, they get their money back after the mortgage lender. My solicitor wrote to the MOD some 6 weeks ago and has still not received a reply. He is still suffering from the JPAC telephone hold and has got nowhere chasing up the issue. What this means to me is that I've got £45k sat in my solicitors bank that I cannot touch until the MOD has been paid back and obviously he can't do that until they tell him how much I owe them!!!
Best of luck to all on the next pay day.....
Joined: Dec 2005
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From: In My Own Little World
Originally Posted by Avtur
No PAYE or NIC shown on deductions, however some random number has been deducted to leave me about £200 shorter than normal (relative to a 30 day month). My HR bod has been told not to help with pay issues by his bosses and JPAC refer me back to my HR bod. I have raised an SR, but these seem to disappear into the ether.
Dont seem to have been deducted food charges this month - which is nice, as am at a PAYD stn, but still no refund of last month's.
Student loan deduction has doubled and then some from last month!
No sign of a paper payslip yet, but rumour has it that someone somewhere on this sunny stn in Beds has got one.
-GW-
Joined: Oct 2005
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From: UK
JPA - Joint Personnel Aggrevation
Well, Ladies and gents
Like my good friend Sid, and the many of us who are in the same chain as him I too have yet to receive ANY flying pay since the smooth ( cough cough choke choke) introduction of JPA
I spoke to JPAC and they assured me it would be in mid may? - Nothing
I spoke to JPAC and they assured me it would be in mays pay? - Nothing
I spoke to my Unit HR - Speak to JPAC they said!!!!!!!
I spoke to JPAC and they quoted one of these wonderful bulletins!!!
" We are aware that there are still an amount of personnel who are yet to receive their specialist pay namely flying pay, and those personnel will be contected within 48 hours of this bulletin by their HR staff"
That was sent out on 23rd May, JPAC say - wait and your HR staff will contact you but if you dont hear from them contact us on Friday morning. This I am sure will only be met by , contact your HR staff.
Oh and I too have had many SRs to JPAC disappear into the ether!!!
Is it me, or am I the only one who feels like I am a performing dog chasing my own tail, oh who by the way is very skint and has tapped into save to cover Apr never mind May!!!
Disgruntled!!!!!!!!!
Like my good friend Sid, and the many of us who are in the same chain as him I too have yet to receive ANY flying pay since the smooth ( cough cough choke choke) introduction of JPA
I spoke to JPAC and they assured me it would be in mid may? - Nothing
I spoke to JPAC and they assured me it would be in mays pay? - Nothing
I spoke to my Unit HR - Speak to JPAC they said!!!!!!!
I spoke to JPAC and they quoted one of these wonderful bulletins!!!
" We are aware that there are still an amount of personnel who are yet to receive their specialist pay namely flying pay, and those personnel will be contected within 48 hours of this bulletin by their HR staff"
That was sent out on 23rd May, JPAC say - wait and your HR staff will contact you but if you dont hear from them contact us on Friday morning. This I am sure will only be met by , contact your HR staff.
Oh and I too have had many SRs to JPAC disappear into the ether!!!
Is it me, or am I the only one who feels like I am a performing dog chasing my own tail, oh who by the way is very skint and has tapped into save to cover Apr never mind May!!!
Disgruntled!!!!!!!!!
Joined: Dec 1998
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From: Canada
Greenwings.
Had one last peek at my on-line payslip before leaving work and found that my PAYE and NIC deductions now appear on it. Unfortunately, so do two separate deductions for unaccompanied food (26 and 28 days worth), despite living out and having not been detached for any significant length during May.
Good luck.
Had one last peek at my on-line payslip before leaving work and found that my PAYE and NIC deductions now appear on it. Unfortunately, so do two separate deductions for unaccompanied food (26 and 28 days worth), despite living out and having not been detached for any significant length during May.
Good luck.
Joined: Apr 2003
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From: Lincolnshire
Avtur, Same here, I contacted JPAC, listened to lots and lots of music, and was then told that the Pay had been cocked up again today, and all should be ok when new payslips etc are done, so maybe another long wait on the phone tomorrow.