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Old 18th Mar 2006, 20:28
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I think CRV-7 could be used quite successfully with minimum hastle. I can't recall off th top of my head if any SNEB's are still within the system.
As for the Falklands - think of the Tornado's as a flag waving exercise with the escort duty for incoming PAX aircraft as and when required. I cannot foresee a serious threat to the Falklands at present.
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Old 18th Mar 2006, 21:07
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SNEB cans? SNEB cans?? Do those things really still exist?

Chivenor 1980. We did strafe, 10deg DB and level bombing. At Brawdy they did strafe, 10 deg DB and 15 deg SNEB. I recall flying to Brawdy once and being asked to do a range recce at Pembrey on the way back. Weather was OK for level bombing, out of limits for dive. Which rather summed up SNEBbery - fine if the Wx was OK, but it often wasn't...

Mind you, I did enjoy hoofing off SNEB rockets from Hunters back in 1976 at Pembrey. "In Hot"..., sight piccie OK, uncage, pickle, pull up and watch the smoke out of the corner of your eye, then wrist in, wrist out, quick look in the mirror, level, 4G pull, get the score, wait for the ship, another 4G pull, faff with the cine mag, oops, watch you don't cross the railway, another 4G pull..... Such fun!

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Old 18th Mar 2006, 21:26
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oh, thirdly, is their any reason - bar cost and overstretch - that the RAF only has F3's at MPA?
As opposed to what? Are you suggesting there should needs to ba an A-G capability based there?

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Old 18th Mar 2006, 23:03
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err... given recent history, very recent argentine rhetoric and reports i've been reading here and on Arrse recently, think that it might be an idea.

what with the performance of A2A missiles against warships, landing craft, light tanks and dug in troops.
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Old 18th Mar 2006, 23:55
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Of course, Typhoo could use its' gun? Oops, didn't buy one?
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Old 19th Mar 2006, 11:25
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oooh soddim u've trodden on the gun minefield again...

I'll try and knock it on the head quick without being bated.... fitted with a gun but not intended for use unless required by operations....
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Old 19th Mar 2006, 18:06
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if you can hang AIM9L's off a Nimrod for the Falklands then hanging rocket pods from a Typhoon can't be that difficult
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I think CRV-7 could be used quite successfully with minimum hastle.
It isn't that easy, given the relationship between ACS and FCS.
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Old 19th Mar 2006, 21:46
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i realise that this is the most idiotic thing ever posted here, but i'll just go for it:

the pilot pulls a trigger on his joy stick and a little electrical pulse goes from the joystick to the pylon, the pylon then either lets go of the bomb or sends a second eletrical pulse to the rocket pod which then fires without any further help from its host.

the targeting is done by pointing the aircraft at what you want to hit.

this isn't that far from wiring a plug, it can't be that difficult.
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Old 19th Mar 2006, 22:35
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That's far from the most idiotic thing ever posted here, but it's a damned good effort for your seventh post!
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Old 19th Mar 2006, 22:52
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Originally Posted by cokecan
i realise that this is the most idiotic thing ever posted here, but i'll just go for it:

the pilot pulls a trigger on his joy stick and a little electrical pulse goes from the joystick to the pylon, the pylon then either lets go of the bomb or sends a second eletrical pulse to the rocket pod which then fires without any further help from its host.

the targeting is done by pointing the aircraft at what you want to hit.

this isn't that far from wiring a plug, it can't be that difficult.
I am not an armament specialist, but you I imagine you require some form of safety circuit to prevent inadvertant operation, the Flight Control System will require the knowledge that had weapon has fired (or hung up?) to adjust trim and fuel balance accordingly.
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Originally Posted by Jackonicko
That's far from the most idiotic thing ever posted here, but it's a damned good effort for your seventh post!
i thang youw!
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this isn't that far from wiring a plug, it can't be that difficult.
You obviously haven't seen the plug that defence contractors the world over would try and sell you.
Seriously though, while on some aircraft it may be little more than putting in the correct wiring (inc the correct safety breaks and signals), modern ac (not just Typhoon) are a little more complex. The armament system needs to know such things as the type of weapon and mode of operation; it has to be able to pass it targeting info (possibly including downloading a new flightplan) and it has to be able to manage the location, firing sequence and balance of a range of different stores. It then has to communciate this information with other aircraft systems - avionics (for control and display of cockpit info as well as receiving target info), propulsion (so the engines know when the are about to get a blast of hot gas), Landing Gear (so you can't go firing things on the ground) and Flight Control System (so it knows what is hanging off the aircraft and what happens when it goes off/doesn't go off as planned vs the appropriate control laws) and maybe some others. Other than that, it isn't rocket science
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