Progress or just potential? (Typhoon)
 

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/att...hmentid=117520

A picture tells a thousand words......?

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/att...hmentid=117520

And the Victor could carry 35 000 lb of bombs. So the point is . . .?

Jacko,
Things going quiet?
The same stores config (if not the same sortie) as you posted on 23rd Feb here:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...70#post2411870
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A flimsy excuse to post the pic, which I thought jolly fine (shame it didn't work - though I posted the [IMG ] and [/IMG ] instructions) and perhaps with an element of fishing to it.

A fine piccie indeed, Jackonicko:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3.../Bombphoon.jpg

Mit acknowledgements to Key Publishing und whoever das Foto taking voz!

Blimey Beags, how come it works for you and not for me?

But thanks guv'nor.

I found it strangely inspiring. Four BVRAAM, two SRAAM, three tanks and four PWIIs. Quite a loadout. Bet there are plenty of envious Tornado/Jag/Harrier boys....

Ve haff vays.....

Und if ve need a little more gas...

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/nw969/mrtt2.jpg

Airbus A310 MRTT - The World's only 21st Century Transport Tanker

It is inspiring, Jacko. Reminds me of the F4 loadouts we used to stand in front of at air displays and show in our presentations.

Have to pour a little realism on the scene and ask how far can this load go and what are the carriage limitations.

However, if the release to service at least allows carriage already, it is a great step forward for all the money the taxpayer has coughed up.

"Bet there are plenty of envious Tornado/Jag/Harrier boys...."

Not really no.

1. If it had more internal fuel it wouldn't need the tanks.
2. BVRAAM is not ready.
3. Typhoon is not operational in the Air - Air role until next year (at best),
so as for carrying bombs, who knows?

Soddim, whose tax payers? Is there a read across to all buyers or is the the German only load out?

Hotshots

Forgive me if I am wrong but those BVRAAMs look like Sparrow/AMRAAM rounds so the original post is technically correct. Meteor might not be ready, but then those aren't Meteor rounds!

Did I say Meteor, did I? I meant BVRAAM in the generic sense, as Roly correctly surmised.

I thought the picture was of the latest Airfix kit.

Might just as well be!

PW 2 are soooo last century!

Sometimes I am really proud to be British, but when I see these sorts of stupid and ill advised comments from the floor I really begin to despair. Jacko does a good job to bring to our attention steady progress on one of the mainstays of your future RAF.
PN starts the crap by comparing it to the Victor, FFS!
Safeware spots the fact the Jacko has posted similar images previously, fair cop, but don't knock Jacko's support for the programme
Jacko/Beags sort out IT issues
Beags then tries a slight hikack
Soddim plays the "Beags used to fly F-4s" tack to ask about range and limitations and confuses RTS (service) with AWFL (test/development) but does acknowledge a step forward - Jacko's point I think.
Hotsnot tries to make 3 "points" to assuage Torn/Jag/Harr envy.
1. Which tactical aircraft go to war without external tanks (A10?) The only time you can have too much fuel is when you are on fire.
2. BVRAAM is a capability not a particular missile, duh!
3. How operational are Jag/Harr/GR4 in the air-air role? Typhoon WILL BE operational in both roles, something not possible in the other platforms.
Pontious Nav there is read across, only non-UK bit in this photo is the outboard IRIS-T missiles
Roland, FYI Sparrow has much bigger fins
BattlerBritain Thanks for the well educated and informed input - FFS!
LJR What would you have until PW IV then?
Come on guys, I know you know better. Is it just the "instant" nature of the world we live in today that makes you think you can produce a fully operational multi-role aircraft overnight and equip squadrons in 4 nations?
Don't forget that in the configuration as shown the jet also has, chaff, flares, DASS and towed decoys to name a few other bits.

Time for lunch, blood sugar level a bit low.... can you tell.

Tarnished

Serious Question
 

Looks impressive..
Forgive my ignorance, but could the typhoon in that fit drop the LGB's itself? (no designator pod?) or would it need a buddy spike?

Sooooooo sorry I posted the picture, Tarnished.

Didn't realise you Boscum Girls were so sensitive.....

All very nice, but...
 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but these look like GBU-16s to me. This would make this thread somewhat irrelevant to the UK (not flaming you, Jacko, just pointing it out).
HKF.

Beags,

I Was grateful for you helping Jacko out in posting the picture, didn't see the point of the Tanker picture however.

And BTW "Boscum Girl" I am not and have not been for gone 8 years now.

I am now one of 't wicked Baron's offspring now albeit not on this project at the moment.

HKF,

Ah, the old nomenclature question, in my Observer's Book of Bombs, GBU-16 can be a PW II.

Sooms,

Being a bit pedantic, but yes in this config Typhoon can drop (your word) an LGB, but yes it would need that buddy spike to guide it to its final target. The designator pod will replace either the centreline tank or front left AMRAAM (been away from the programme for a bit, not sure what the current plan is)

T
Tarnished

Tarnished,

My understanding:

Austere A-G capability: Litening 3, centreline, sequential (not simultaneous)
FOC: Undecided LDP, in BVRAAM recess, simultaneous.

Hong Kong Fuey,

The German IPA is flying with GBU-16, the UK DAs and IPA will fly with UK PW II. I believe that there's a degree of read-across.