'F15 Board of Inquiry Report - Support Group Response
Originally Posted by green granite
The first BOI was stoped when it was decided to start Court Marshall
proceedings, and then reconvened afterwards.
Can BOI info be used in a CM? I'm not certain about the rules of evidence
but I would imagine not directly but I stand to be corrected on that
proceedings, and then reconvened afterwards.
Can BOI info be used in a CM? I'm not certain about the rules of evidence
but I would imagine not directly but I stand to be corrected on that
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Originally Posted by possel
Having done a good number of legal RAF cases (as an engineer!), I can say with certainty that MAFL states that the proceedings of an inquiry may NOT be used in any legal proceedings.
thanks in advance.
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
Had me there for a moment, haven't thought about it as the Manual of Air Force Law (MAFL) for 40 years (when I thought of it at all). It is probably equivalent to the Uniform Code of Military Justice (If I guess right).
It was full of case law and study and an essential part of our promotion system. The early edition was hard bound, as in keeping with legal documents but kept updated with amendments such as "insert the following 3 paragraphs between esential and part above." It was full of marginal notes, stick in notes, extra tabs, pencil cribs etc from countless unknown officers in the past all seeking promtion to flt lt.
Now it is a pristine loose leaf book, same size and format as QRs (which is Queens Regulations (Air Force) and rarely read at all and usually only by the legal eagles.
It was full of case law and study and an essential part of our promotion system. The early edition was hard bound, as in keeping with legal documents but kept updated with amendments such as "insert the following 3 paragraphs between esential and part above." It was full of marginal notes, stick in notes, extra tabs, pencil cribs etc from countless unknown officers in the past all seeking promtion to flt lt.
Now it is a pristine loose leaf book, same size and format as QRs (which is Queens Regulations (Air Force) and rarely read at all and usually only by the legal eagles.
Originally Posted by gumbyswa
Pardon but whats a MAFL?
thanks in advance.
thanks in advance.
I once had great pleasure in sending a charge back to P1 as it said "witnesses - see attached Board of Inquiry". This just isn't allowed as you have to hear the best evidence, not the views of someone else's inquiry.
Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator
Had me there for a moment, haven't thought about it as the Manual of Air Force Law (MAFL) for 40 years (when I thought of it at all). It is probably equivalent to the Uniform Code of Military Justice (If I guess right).
It was full of case law and study and an essential part of our promotion system. The early edition was hard bound, as in keeping with legal documents but kept updated with amendments such as "insert the following 3 paragraphs between esential and part above." It was full of marginal notes, stick in notes, extra tabs, pencil cribs etc from countless unknown officers in the past all seeking promtion to flt lt.
Now it is a pristine loose leaf book, same size and format as QRs (which is Queens Regulations (Air Force) and rarely read at all and usually only by the legal eagles.
It was full of case law and study and an essential part of our promotion system. The early edition was hard bound, as in keeping with legal documents but kept updated with amendments such as "insert the following 3 paragraphs between esential and part above." It was full of marginal notes, stick in notes, extra tabs, pencil cribs etc from countless unknown officers in the past all seeking promtion to flt lt.
Now it is a pristine loose leaf book, same size and format as QRs (which is Queens Regulations (Air Force) and rarely read at all and usually only by the legal eagles.
Perhaps I did more than my fair share of legal work but any sub-ordinate commander had to have one of these on his bookshelf and use it!
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
Possel, on reflection, it was Vol 2 that was hard bound. Vol 1 was loose but they did not re-issue pages but simply cut and paste and that, as I said, was virtually impossible.
It may well have helped give people the benefit of the doubt as no 2 copies would be the same <g>
Also most junior officers in those days were aircraft. Engineers and other FOFL were very thin on the ground compared with 200 odd fofl aircrew on a bomber wing.
It may well have helped give people the benefit of the doubt as no 2 copies would be the same <g>
Also most junior officers in those days were aircraft. Engineers and other FOFL were very thin on the ground compared with 200 odd fofl aircrew on a bomber wing.