Finally ! The News on Tankers !
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Very good, but if the RAF truly intends to drive them down dirt roads and over mountain passes in Afghanistan I wonder what their protection is against small arms fire let alone RPG 7 variants. Is the cab protected - if so to what standard.
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American-built Oshkosh ten-wheeled fuel tankers have the most impressive off-road capability of any fuels vehicle bought for the RAF.
Geoff continued: "So far they have proved themselves extremely capable of going virtually anywhere that a tank can go. Two tankers have already left the UK for Afghanistan by sea."
Geoff continued: "So far they have proved themselves extremely capable of going virtually anywhere that a tank can go. Two tankers have already left the UK for Afghanistan by sea."
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They've got an impressive fuel load, but the delivery rate is quite slow, portable pump and pillow tank/ older style bowsers, are considerably quicker. takes ages to stick 3 tonnes in a death banana.
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Hang on a min' ... it said in the copy of tradewise left lying in line control that if you want to work on the new tankers apply and they will put selected persons through a license course.
I thought they ment EASA part 66 not a DVLA HGV!!!
I thought they ment EASA part 66 not a DVLA HGV!!!
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From what I hear on the grapevine Suppliers will never get a look in at driving them all the time that their is an MT trade falling over themselves to justify their jobs.
Strange. The RAF pays thousands every year to train non-MT personnel up to LGV 1 standard but will only let them drag 3 ton trailers behind 4 toners and not drive the 'Gucci' vehicles.
Anyway, they do seem like a lovely vehicle to drive around in but I'm glad my 'wing mong' days are behind me because I'd hate to be one of the poor sods trying to cam one of these behemoths up in a tactical situation. It was bad enough when they brought in the AFDV to replace the TART. Great, replace a small trailer based refuelling set-up and two APFC's that can be carried under a Chinny plus a L/R inside with a 'beefed up' version of the Brize Norton stalwart, the Roadrunner', that needs to be accompanied by either an M-WAD (which there are very few of) or an LM with GST (which is basically a civvy tanker painted green and can just about mount kerbs, let alone go anywhere slightly rough).
Anyway I digress. Best of luck to anyone on the rapidly becoming less so Tactical Supply Wing who has to use it.
Strange. The RAF pays thousands every year to train non-MT personnel up to LGV 1 standard but will only let them drag 3 ton trailers behind 4 toners and not drive the 'Gucci' vehicles.
Anyway, they do seem like a lovely vehicle to drive around in but I'm glad my 'wing mong' days are behind me because I'd hate to be one of the poor sods trying to cam one of these behemoths up in a tactical situation. It was bad enough when they brought in the AFDV to replace the TART. Great, replace a small trailer based refuelling set-up and two APFC's that can be carried under a Chinny plus a L/R inside with a 'beefed up' version of the Brize Norton stalwart, the Roadrunner', that needs to be accompanied by either an M-WAD (which there are very few of) or an LM with GST (which is basically a civvy tanker painted green and can just about mount kerbs, let alone go anywhere slightly rough).
Anyway I digress. Best of luck to anyone on the rapidly becoming less so Tactical Supply Wing who has to use it.
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Originally Posted by John Blakeley
Very good, but if the RAF truly intends to drive them down dirt roads and over mountain passes in Afghanistan I wonder what their protection is against small arms fire let alone RPG 7 variants. Is the cab protected - if so to what standard.
you WANT to be in the cab when that lot starts taking rnds...... 
Fifty odd units....gee...massive order. I would love to see what the attrition rate is for these things in a combat zone. Better hope for a short war I guess. Knock more than a hand full out and there goes the forward resupply concept. But there I go.....must quit that thinking.
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Pretty impressive (to look at), but they are not going to Norway this year.
Why?
Because they cannot guarantee that they will not skid and and lose control of them on the line.
Best keep on relying on the old tankers then.......
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Why?
Because they cannot guarantee that they will not skid and and lose control of them on the line.
Best keep on relying on the old tankers then.......
TI
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I know they are a US company but weren't these built in good old Welsh Wales?
I know they are a US company but weren't these built in good old Welsh Wales?
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This type of vehicle chassis is not new: Oshkosh have been building airfield crash/fire trucks for about 60 years, which is a fair bit of experience. The US Marine Corp alone has 1700 of them...the USAF zillions!
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but they are not going to Norway this year.
On my way to work today, my eyes saw something very similar appear by the side of the road........
Sorry, might be the naval variant.....
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Tankers?
BEagle's plan for us to get Airbus Tankers looked a better bet to me - and they might be going to Norway, but I really don't see how these ones are going to get to Towline 5.
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Originally Posted by SirToppamHat
BEagle's plan for us to get Airbus Tankers looked a better bet to me - and they might be going to Norway, but I really don't see how these ones are going to get to Towline 5.
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