XM607, Waddington's Warbird
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No drastic mistakes, just some queries as to the unit allocations at various times for some aircraft (and until I start re-checking everything, I couldn't tell you which ones!).
The only other slight mistake was one aircraft which is listed as having 300 series engines when it had 200 series, or vice versa.
I'll go through everything again before the next book is completed so that everything's 100 percent correct next time (unless we introduce some completely new mistakes - which is what usually happens with most books of this nature!).
The only other slight mistake was one aircraft which is listed as having 300 series engines when it had 200 series, or vice versa.
I'll go through everything again before the next book is completed so that everything's 100 percent correct next time (unless we introduce some completely new mistakes - which is what usually happens with most books of this nature!).
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Tim,
Are you going to pop across to Waddo to get some recent pics of 607 for your book?
May possibly bring some attention to the cause if a respected historian was to ask some questions and request permission from the Staish, and people who may have some input into the situation, to photograph the aircraft in the "state" it's currently in?
Just a thought....
Are you going to pop across to Waddo to get some recent pics of 607 for your book?
May possibly bring some attention to the cause if a respected historian was to ask some questions and request permission from the Staish, and people who may have some input into the situation, to photograph the aircraft in the "state" it's currently in?
Just a thought....
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I've already taken a shot of 607 from the A15! There wouldn't be any point in making a special visit, as aerospace journalists/photographers are pretty lowly creatures as far as the RAF is concerned. The RAF do their best to accommodate our requests, but we certainly wouldn't command the attention of a Stn Commander!
The best I could do, would be to write directly to the Stn Cdr and ask what his views are on the subject, but it's pretty easy to guess what the response would be - he'd simply say that his personnel do their utmost to maintain the aircraft as best they can, given that they have no funds with which to support it.
The only way I can imagine anything good happening, would be if there's some ex-Vulcan people around who can collar the Stn Cdr socially and persuade him to allow some outsiders to get involved, and try to raise funds that way. Otherwise, I really can't see anything to be optimistic about, sadly.
The best I could do, would be to write directly to the Stn Cdr and ask what his views are on the subject, but it's pretty easy to guess what the response would be - he'd simply say that his personnel do their utmost to maintain the aircraft as best they can, given that they have no funds with which to support it.
The only way I can imagine anything good happening, would be if there's some ex-Vulcan people around who can collar the Stn Cdr socially and persuade him to allow some outsiders to get involved, and try to raise funds that way. Otherwise, I really can't see anything to be optimistic about, sadly.
Let's see....
Next year will be the 25th anniversary of the bombing and ARM attacks on Stanley.
Perhaps a major TV channel would wish to make a documentary, particularly as '558 should be flying again by then. So the famous '607 would be in demand if a documentary was to be made - it is, I understand, the only survivor of the raids?
I wonder whether the Ch4 team who made the 'Bomber Pilot' series might be interested, perhaps I should suggest to them that they write to the Waddington Stn Cdr for access to '607 - which, no doubt, as an historic aircraft has been kept in suitable condition......
I'm sure I've still got their e-mail address....
Next year will be the 25th anniversary of the bombing and ARM attacks on Stanley.
Perhaps a major TV channel would wish to make a documentary, particularly as '558 should be flying again by then. So the famous '607 would be in demand if a documentary was to be made - it is, I understand, the only survivor of the raids?
I wonder whether the Ch4 team who made the 'Bomber Pilot' series might be interested, perhaps I should suggest to them that they write to the Waddington Stn Cdr for access to '607 - which, no doubt, as an historic aircraft has been kept in suitable condition......
I'm sure I've still got their e-mail address....
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Worth a try I guess - keep us posted if you do.
I should add that 607 certainly isn't the only surviving Black Buck aircraft however - there's a few still around, not least 597, the other "star" of the conflict
I should add that 607 certainly isn't the only surviving Black Buck aircraft however - there's a few still around, not least 597, the other "star" of the conflict
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I should add that 607 certainly isn't the only surviving Black Buck aircraft however - there's a few still around, not least 597, the other "star" of the conflict
The 2 other Black Buck 'reserve' a/c still survive as well, with '598 at Cosford and '612 at Norwich Aviation Museum.
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"The only other slight mistake was one aircraft which is listed as having 300 series engines when it had 200 series, or vice versa.
I'll go through everything again before the next book is completed so that everything's 100 percent correct next time (unless we introduce some completely new mistakes - which is what usually happens with most books of this nature!)."
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I'll go through everything again before the next book is completed so that everything's 100 percent correct next time (unless we introduce some completely new mistakes - which is what usually happens with most books of this nature!)."
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Originally Posted by Tim McLelland
Of course, the real champions of stupidity are the RAF Museum. .........................But then they also cut-up one of only two surviving Beverley transports, replacing it with a plastic Spitfire and Hurricane. Hmm... I suppose we shouldn't be surprised by anything, when you look at Hendon's new extension, and the main exhibits are... a BF-109 and a P-51. Confused? I know I am!
To be fair to the RAFM, they never had possession of the Beverley, it was just abandoned at Hendon by the RAF (I was told that there was some severe internal politics on that one).
Oh, you'll be glad to now the new exhibition will soon expanded by an IL-2......(Swapped for a Spitfire, possibly an F21)
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That's XM603, another aircraft that was supposedly going to fly again, back in those days when people really didn't have a clue how difficult/expensive such a proposition really is.
Despite the external condition, 603 has had lots of attention from the people who look after her (ex Avro employees who built her in the first place), but I suspect their initial enthusiasm and devotion has slipped, now that the future of the entire airfield looks pretty insecure. Not much hope of an "Avro Flight Centre" with shelter for 603, when "Avro" will probably me moving out before too long, and leaving the Vulcan behind
Despite the external condition, 603 has had lots of attention from the people who look after her (ex Avro employees who built her in the first place), but I suspect their initial enthusiasm and devotion has slipped, now that the future of the entire airfield looks pretty insecure. Not much hope of an "Avro Flight Centre" with shelter for 603, when "Avro" will probably me moving out before too long, and leaving the Vulcan behind
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Hey, you Vulcan guys,
Why not take a leaf out of the Buccaneer book!
When the Bucc fleet folded in 1994, we formed an aircrew association and charged £100 to those who took out Life Membership. With that lump sum (well £6K of it) we bought a Bucc. For £2.5K more we transported it to a museum (the RAF Museum was not interested in it). We fettled it, purloined weapons (inc a 177) and other bits and it has been established at the museum now for 11 years. We still have money in the pot and are about to spend some of it on a complete(ish) refurbishment of the dear old bird.
Now, with more than 450 members (250 Lifers), we might even just have enough in the kitty for the last man standing to go out in an alcoholic frenzy when his time comes!
Try it, it cannot be too late and there appears to be enough enthusiasm here alone to get you started and I'm sure that the CO at Waddo might be well pleased to see the back of 607!
Why not take a leaf out of the Buccaneer book!
When the Bucc fleet folded in 1994, we formed an aircrew association and charged £100 to those who took out Life Membership. With that lump sum (well £6K of it) we bought a Bucc. For £2.5K more we transported it to a museum (the RAF Museum was not interested in it). We fettled it, purloined weapons (inc a 177) and other bits and it has been established at the museum now for 11 years. We still have money in the pot and are about to spend some of it on a complete(ish) refurbishment of the dear old bird.
Now, with more than 450 members (250 Lifers), we might even just have enough in the kitty for the last man standing to go out in an alcoholic frenzy when his time comes!
Try it, it cannot be too late and there appears to be enough enthusiasm here alone to get you started and I'm sure that the CO at Waddo might be well pleased to see the back of 607!
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The TVOC website now has webcams set up in the hangar at Bruntingthorpe, so you can watch 558 as it progresses.
The cameras have multiple views, but are only on between 8am - 5 pm
I have no vested interest in this, just thought it was relevant, and of interest to posters.
The cameras have multiple views, but are only on between 8am - 5 pm
I have no vested interest in this, just thought it was relevant, and of interest to posters.
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Well I'm certainly more than happy to give my support to any project to restore and shelter 607, but as an individual I can't do much to get things started. As I said, I think it will require an ex-Vulcan man to influence Waddington's Station Commander, and convince him that the aircraft is valuable.
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Originally Posted by Lancasterman
Are there any empty hangars at Waddo that could house the vulcan?
Other than that, no there's nowhere under cover, unless you pop into Lincoln and buy a big gazebo from B&Q.....
