Ascot 9521 Smoke in cockpit
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Ascot 9521 Smoke in cockpit
A few hours ago, while crossing the NAT, a Jaguar named Ascot 9521 called Mayday due to smoke in the cockpit.
He was at N41W038, and he and Ascot 9113 headed for Lajes.
They were doing 300kts at FL230.
Now, I'm not exactly sure how far it is from there to Lajes, but I'm sure it's a LONG way.
Does anyone have any more recent info as to whether this fellow arrived, or is he swimming around waiting for someone to go pick him up????
He was at N41W038, and he and Ascot 9113 headed for Lajes.
They were doing 300kts at FL230.
Now, I'm not exactly sure how far it is from there to Lajes, but I'm sure it's a LONG way.
Does anyone have any more recent info as to whether this fellow arrived, or is he swimming around waiting for someone to go pick him up????
Last edited by Nano 763; 18th Jan 2006 at 21:35.
Sounds very nasty indeed - fingers crossed that it had a safe ending.
From N41W038 to Lajes is approx 450 nm.
It used to be normal for a SAR Nimrod to accompany North Atlantic AAR trails - I don't know whether that's still the case.
From N41W038 to Lajes is approx 450 nm.
It used to be normal for a SAR Nimrod to accompany North Atlantic AAR trails - I don't know whether that's still the case.
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He landed safely and is standing next to me drinking a beer. He was on the wing in $hite weather at the time! Many thanks to the ac that relayed the Mayday I put out...
Tonks
PS... the copilot passed his trail check.
Tonks
PS... the copilot passed his trail check.
Hi Tonks! Hope that the Jag mate enjoys his beer.
A prudent move to have him beside you, rather than behind you...
A few more days in Lajes then, I guess. Is that old rogue Ten Percent Carlos still looking after things - if so, give him a kick in the slats from me!
And top tick to both yourself and the co-pilot for a well-managed trail!!
A prudent move to have him beside you, rather than behind you...
A few more days in Lajes then, I guess. Is that old rogue Ten Percent Carlos still looking after things - if so, give him a kick in the slats from me!
And top tick to both yourself and the co-pilot for a well-managed trail!!
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Ah, King Carlos of Lajes. He almost runs the entire island!!! If you tell him that you will ask for extra catering next time, he will give you a bottle of Port to entice you- rather good stuff too!!! Don't give it to the tanker crew to "guard" for you- you will never see it again!!!
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Splendid rogue is 10% Carlos! He once booked me in to the Presidential Suite at the Nasce Agua during a typical Canadian weather delay faff!
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He was a gypsy, the accom was less than brill and the rats were crap.......... but what a toptastic nite out. There was a steak house down a back street where the food was to die for and a great tapas bar that served huge beers from a fountain bought to the table which was top value. Hope you jag mates have a good nite out and fly safe tomorrow
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I wouldn't like to bob around in the North Atlantic for 1 hour never mind 5-6 hours, would be interested in the FJ jockey's views on having their SAR cover far far away. Is risk management going too far for the sake of cost cutting? As I said interested in hearing the FJ viewpoint.
And what exactly do you think the Nimrod will do when he finds you - it can search but it can't rescue. Dropping more dinghies when you are already safe and sound in yours is fairly pointless. This is why it stays at home instead.
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Anyone who has flown over the Atlantic for long hours will tell you that there aren't that many ships out there!! So your Nimrod, at RS 60, might take 4 -5 hours to reach you, depending upon where you ditch/eject. Until the MRA4 comes how long does he actually does a Mk 2 have on station before having to RTB or divert? Unless the pilot is AAR qualified and the tanker stays on scene, the Nimrod might have an hour or 2 to locate the FJ mate in his dinghy and then find a ship to vector to the scene of search! IMHO much better to have the Nimrod flying the trail route so at least radar is already tracking the shipping contacts in the area. That way, hopefully, the rescue will happen much more quickly.
Anyone who has flown over the Atlantic for long hours will tell you that there aren't that many ships out there!! So your Nimrod, at RS 60, might take 4 -5 hours to reach you, depending upon where you ditch/eject. Until the MRA4 comes how long does he actually does a Mk 2 have on station before having to RTB or divert? Unless the pilot is AAR qualified and the tanker stays on scene, the Nimrod might have an hour or 2 to locate the FJ mate in his dinghy and then find a ship to vector to the scene of search! IMHO much better to have the Nimrod flying the trail route so at least radar is already tracking the shipping contacts in the area. That way, hopefully, the rescue will happen much more quickly.
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Brakedwell, the USAF moved out of Lajes many years ago, but they have moved back in again [see next entry]. However as far as I know the RAF treat it as a Portugese airfield completely now.
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the USAF moved out of Lajes many years ago
Thanks Ant. I spent five months in Lajes during the winter of 1957/8, living in the BOQ'a next to the Officers' Club. I will never forget watching B47's trying to land in gale force Xwinds. Several failed to stay on the runway and caused panic on the ramp as they narrowly missed the rows of parked transports. I also looked over a C130 in Jan or Feb 1958 when it arrived on a proving flight. That seems a lifetime ago.
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