Nimrod Pilot Escapes Ban
There does seems to be major discrepancies between punishments for speeding. This nimrod chap appears repentant and is unfortunate to get not just a ban but his name splashed across the news for 109mph.
Yet last night, I saw that bbc documentary about traffic cops, and there was an ape-like motorbike rider, 130mph with a pillion passenger who gets a small fine and 6 points. Not only that, but he is on national television telling everyone inccluding the copper that he is unrepentant about breaking the law because he has got a shiny new bike and he considers himself capable of that speed. He should have got a 12 month ban for the attitude alone!
Yet last night, I saw that bbc documentary about traffic cops, and there was an ape-like motorbike rider, 130mph with a pillion passenger who gets a small fine and 6 points. Not only that, but he is on national television telling everyone inccluding the copper that he is unrepentant about breaking the law because he has got a shiny new bike and he considers himself capable of that speed. He should have got a 12 month ban for the attitude alone!
This nimrod chap appears repentant and is unfortunate to get not just a ban but his name splashed across the news for 109mph.
It was also interesting to note how the police driver warmed to the personality of the motorcyclist - probably in marked contrast to the usual verbal abuse!
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OK, honestly now, who would not try and blag their way to a lower sentence?
I do agree with most of the comments regarding that bike driver, what a
, 134mph in those conditions
I do agree with most of the comments regarding that bike driver, what a
, 134mph in those conditions
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This nimrod chap appears repentant and is unfortunate to get not just a ban but his name splashed across the news for 109mph...
Yet last night, I saw that bbc documentary about traffic cops, and there was an ape-like motorbike rider, 130mph with a pillion passenger who gets a small fine and 6 points
Yet last night, I saw that bbc documentary about traffic cops, and there was an ape-like motorbike rider, 130mph with a pillion passenger who gets a small fine and 6 points
Like it or not, and whether Nimord jockey was on duty or not, "we" are all viewed differently to grotty bikers (thank god) by Joe Civvy do-gooders who will roll out the usual "I pay your wages" argument and expect us all to be squeaky clean. It comes with wearing a uniform, any uniform, even those with golden arches on the baseball cap.
Remember The Scum publishing a centre spread about how squaddies had the audacity to actually enjoy themselves and make life bearable during a tour at MPA by acting like the average readership of said rag?
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Vigilant pilot---watched the same prog and couldn't agree more re the biker---but what really made me "laugh"-- was the plod who opined that said biker was an ok bloke etc and er, didn't have an attitude ! really ??--or did the rest of us with reasoning powers imagine the whole exchange was one of pleasant and meaningful debate then ? 
Have to say I think said Nimrod driver has been "rather fortunate" however.
was the plod who opined that said biker was an ok bloke etc and er, didn't have an attitude ! really ??--or did the rest of us with reasoning powers imagine the whole exchange was one of pleasant and meaningful debate then ? Have to say I think said Nimrod driver has been "rather fortunate" however.
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Afternoon all,
Regarding the biker on that programme the other night, we were not actually told at what speed the officer clocked him at. Yes we saw the police car driving at 130mph or so to catch up which is a whole different kettle of fish - not necessarily the speed at which the bike was being ridden.
I would think that there would be more outrage at the shot of the copper chasing that chap in the Astra - driving one handed talking into his radio and not wearing his seat belt.
Regarding the biker on that programme the other night, we were not actually told at what speed the officer clocked him at. Yes we saw the police car driving at 130mph or so to catch up which is a whole different kettle of fish - not necessarily the speed at which the bike was being ridden.
I would think that there would be more outrage at the shot of the copper chasing that chap in the Astra - driving one handed talking into his radio and not wearing his seat belt.
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Why not use his reaction time argument. Its a whole lot better than the guy that got off his 6 month ban for saying all the kids in the outlying villages that he dressed up as santa for over christmas would be let down if he was banned.
There are far worse things out there than 109mph. You only know half the story especially since some local news journo was the reporter in court.
Give the guy a break.
There are far worse things out there than 109mph. You only know half the story especially since some local news journo was the reporter in court.
Give the guy a break.
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Two thoughts: -
First - Let every one drive as fast as they want because there’s no point having a law backed off by excuses.
Second - Have a law and enforce it.
Seems to me that neither is practical, nor is extracting the urine.
First - Let every one drive as fast as they want because there’s no point having a law backed off by excuses.
Second - Have a law and enforce it.
Seems to me that neither is practical, nor is extracting the urine.
For me, all traffic police lost their last scraps of credibility when the cdr of the Met's traffic div let his driver use the blues and twos to get him to a meeting, whilst speeding through heavy London traffic.
Fair play to this ingenious member of the pie/curry eating fraternity.
Fire all traffic police and speed camera operators or redeploy them on anti-burgling/murder/terror ops!
Fair play to this ingenious member of the pie/curry eating fraternity.
Fire all traffic police and speed camera operators or redeploy them on anti-burgling/murder/terror ops!
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Top Blagging!
Some of you seem to think this guy should have rolled over and taken the full penalty of the law - why??
OK he did 109 and that has raised some comments such as 'driving like a tw@t', is he really? Hands up if youve done over the ton in Germany. If so were you driving like a tw@t? probably not. Why did you do it - because you could. The thing about this guy is he has broken the law, just like the rest of us who have ever driven above 70 in the UK, but more than likely never been caught. Me thinks the only folks out there who can slag this chap off are the ones who have NEVER broken the speed limit. So where are you? Dont think there will be many somehow.
Some of you seem to think this guy should have rolled over and taken the full penalty of the law - why??
OK he did 109 and that has raised some comments such as 'driving like a tw@t', is he really? Hands up if youve done over the ton in Germany. If so were you driving like a tw@t? probably not. Why did you do it - because you could. The thing about this guy is he has broken the law, just like the rest of us who have ever driven above 70 in the UK, but more than likely never been caught. Me thinks the only folks out there who can slag this chap off are the ones who have NEVER broken the speed limit. So where are you? Dont think there will be many somehow.
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OK he did 109 and that has raised some comments such as 'driving like a tw@t', is he really? Hands up if youve done over the ton in Germany
A9 in Scotland: Single lane (in places) two way with no central barrier.............
Autobahn in Germany: Two lanes, one way, lots of Armco
Like most things in Germany, there are Rules of Construction for Autbahns. There are specific minimum radius requirements for bends which may be on unrestricted sections; if those cannot be met, then there will be an associated limit. Similarly, there are gradient limits, road construction standards (i.e. depth of road foundations), mandatory road surface inspections, speed restrictions at various Autobahnkreuz intersections etc etc....
But any Autobahn speed limits are both reasonable and appropriate - as are other speed limits in Germany.
However, in the UK there is a blanket speed limit on motorways and dual carriageways which ACPO once said was too low. The trouble is, the great unwashed simply won't respect any limit unless it's strictly enforced. Variable speed limits on the M25 do actually work, however.
The UK thus has both unrealistic limits on 'good' roads (which are constructed to far lower standards than an Autobahn) - and a spreading rash of totally unreasonable politically-led minor road limits. Roads which once had 70 or 60 limits have all of a sudden had 50 limits inflicted on them - and in this part of the world virtually any house within sight of a road causes the state nannies to impose a 40 or 30 limit on that road section. Frustrated drivers ignore these stupid political enviro-fundamentalist limits, so along come mobile revenue scameras....
Compare the speed limits as they are today with the way they were 10 years ago - and the driving standards at the time when police traffic vehicles were still to be seen on the roads. I'm all for higher reasonable speed limits - but anything more than 10% over that limit and you should expect to be 'done'. I understand the Dutch did that some years ago when their absurdly low limits were brought into line with other European countries' limits.
But 109 mph is hard to defend on the grounds of a 'momentary lapse of concentration'.....
If Sweetie Darling and Ladyboy get their way, you can anticipate Big Brother uplinking your position and speed to some Central Government agency which will then automatically prosecute you for disobeying speed limits. NooLabor will have achieved its Brave New World order.
But any Autobahn speed limits are both reasonable and appropriate - as are other speed limits in Germany.
However, in the UK there is a blanket speed limit on motorways and dual carriageways which ACPO once said was too low. The trouble is, the great unwashed simply won't respect any limit unless it's strictly enforced. Variable speed limits on the M25 do actually work, however.
The UK thus has both unrealistic limits on 'good' roads (which are constructed to far lower standards than an Autobahn) - and a spreading rash of totally unreasonable politically-led minor road limits. Roads which once had 70 or 60 limits have all of a sudden had 50 limits inflicted on them - and in this part of the world virtually any house within sight of a road causes the state nannies to impose a 40 or 30 limit on that road section. Frustrated drivers ignore these stupid political enviro-fundamentalist limits, so along come mobile revenue scameras....
Compare the speed limits as they are today with the way they were 10 years ago - and the driving standards at the time when police traffic vehicles were still to be seen on the roads. I'm all for higher reasonable speed limits - but anything more than 10% over that limit and you should expect to be 'done'. I understand the Dutch did that some years ago when their absurdly low limits were brought into line with other European countries' limits.
But 109 mph is hard to defend on the grounds of a 'momentary lapse of concentration'.....
If Sweetie Darling and Ladyboy get their way, you can anticipate Big Brother uplinking your position and speed to some Central Government agency which will then automatically prosecute you for disobeying speed limits. NooLabor will have achieved its Brave New World order.
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Spot the difference.
A9 in Scotland: Single lane (in places) two way with no central barrier.............
Autobahn in Germany: Two lanes, one way, lots of Armco
A9 in Scotland: Single lane (in places) two way with no central barrier.............
Autobahn in Germany: Two lanes, one way, lots of Armco
Do you still think your argument holds in THIS particular case Radalt
Not defending his actions, he did the crime and got his punishment. But, did it really warrant such coverage in the national press
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For those who have never lost friends/loved ones due to mere idiotic driving- and that's exactly what this was- I suggest you finish all this 'top blagging', 'well done mate' c**p and realise that it's a big issue.
The guy should be locked up with the key thrown away, and to have the audacity to use service reasons as an excuse should see him out the door right away.
I feel embarrased to be of the same trade as this chimp.
The guy should be locked up with the key thrown away, and to have the audacity to use service reasons as an excuse should see him out the door right away.
I feel embarrased to be of the same trade as this chimp.
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Lots of views, agree some and don't others.
With speeding, you do the crime and takes your medicine, but to use the war on terror as an excuse- that's the no-no, in my view.
It's clearly not the case that he can't do his duty- he can stay in the mess on SAR standby- the rest can be accomodated at his own cost.
Agree totally with Mad Boom- talking up 'how great a blag' it was ranks with throwing sickies, and saying 'everyone does it don't they?' We don't.
That's why he deserves to be pilloried in the press, not that he speeded.
CG
With speeding, you do the crime and takes your medicine, but to use the war on terror as an excuse- that's the no-no, in my view.
It's clearly not the case that he can't do his duty- he can stay in the mess on SAR standby- the rest can be accomodated at his own cost.
Agree totally with Mad Boom- talking up 'how great a blag' it was ranks with throwing sickies, and saying 'everyone does it don't they?' We don't.
That's why he deserves to be pilloried in the press, not that he speeded.
CG
