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Tis true. First one goes tomorrow. However, the rumour that the reason is because our gallant movers have driven some ground equipment into the 747 at BZN is absolute poppycock. Bzn is closed at the moment and the 747 is at Fairford. 
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I X-Reference you to THIS thread. Are they not all supposed to be broken?
Why are we using Timmys for the Falklands again, when we are unable to rustle up enough to serve Iraq?
Surely if we need Tristars or other military aircraft to get in and out of Basra, and there are no requirements for such at MPA there is a serious need to look at priorities here?
Am I being stupid, or am I missing something?
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Unfortunately visitors to BZN (or Fairford) often see a number of 'white planes' and wonder why when their 'white plane' breaks they can't just jump on the 'white plane over there'.
Without going into the nitty gritty these 'white planes' come in several variants, of which only one type is capable of operating to certain operational airfields.
The remainder of the 'white planes' are not sufficiently equipped to do so or, as is quite often the case, broken.
Visitors to the likes of Lyneham make similar mistakes; a row of aircraft and a silenced workforce do not mean it is anything other than crisis management. It is.
Ironically, Brize's flightline currently provides a very good visual of our 'spare' capacity...
Unfortunately visitors to BZN (or Fairford) often see a number of 'white planes' and wonder why when their 'white plane' breaks they can't just jump on the 'white plane over there'.
Without going into the nitty gritty these 'white planes' come in several variants, of which only one type is capable of operating to certain operational airfields.
The remainder of the 'white planes' are not sufficiently equipped to do so or, as is quite often the case, broken.
Visitors to the likes of Lyneham make similar mistakes; a row of aircraft and a silenced workforce do not mean it is anything other than crisis management. It is.
Ironically, Brize's flightline currently provides a very good visual of our 'spare' capacity...
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FOMere2eternity,
Thank you very much for that explanation. However, I am most certainly not a "visitor" to BZN who wonders why my "White Plane" is delayed, and I cannot get on the one next to it.
Perhaps if you'd bothered to look at my profile before typing up your patronising reply, you'd have seen that too. I was merely shocked and surprised that we are concentrating on saving a few pounds by taking back the BZN-MPI route instead of concentrating our efforts upon arranging alternative transport in and out of a WAR ZONE.
Unless the White Jets require different wings/fuselages/engines to get in and out of Basra instead of ECM equipment.
However, I'm sure you'll put me right again, of course, without going into the nitty gritty.
Thank you very much for that explanation. However, I am most certainly not a "visitor" to BZN who wonders why my "White Plane" is delayed, and I cannot get on the one next to it.
Perhaps if you'd bothered to look at my profile before typing up your patronising reply, you'd have seen that too. I was merely shocked and surprised that we are concentrating on saving a few pounds by taking back the BZN-MPI route instead of concentrating our efforts upon arranging alternative transport in and out of a WAR ZONE.
Unless the White Jets require different wings/fuselages/engines to get in and out of Basra instead of ECM equipment.
However, I'm sure you'll put me right again, of course, without going into the nitty gritty.
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Without reading your profile, you are obviously either an air rank or a FJ T**t.
FOM tried to give a reasoned answer to a question that showed a lack of understanding of the issue.
If you knew what you were talking about, you would have known how long it took to prepare 3 T*s for Op flying, and would not have made such a naive post.
When you have grown up, come back and join the discussion.
( I can't beleive I'm defending the shiny fleet!!!!)
Without reading your profile, you are obviously either an air rank or a FJ T**t.
FOM tried to give a reasoned answer to a question that showed a lack of understanding of the issue.
If you knew what you were talking about, you would have known how long it took to prepare 3 T*s for Op flying, and would not have made such a naive post.
When you have grown up, come back and join the discussion.
( I can't beleive I'm defending the shiny fleet!!!!)
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Unless the White Jets require different wings/fuselages/engines to get in and out of Basra instead of ECM equipment.
And its MPN (or MPA) but not MPI. Looking at your profile, I'd have thought you'd have known that.
Perhaps they're sending a K1 or a KC1 - I know, having looked at your profile, that I don't need to explain the differences to you.
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As Rocket thinks we should all read his profile, now that I have I am dearly disappointed that I can't throw some banter at a Harrier mate.
As he's only Tonkas though suppose we'd better type more slowly so he can keep up.
T h e _ o n e' s _ t h a t _ g o _ S _ d o n ' t _ g o _ E.
Let us know if you require further explanation. Danke.
As he's only Tonkas though suppose we'd better type more slowly so he can keep up.
T h e _ o n e' s _ t h a t _ g o _ S _ d o n ' t _ g o _ E.
Let us know if you require further explanation. Danke.
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brit bus driver is right about 1 being grey. Relax, oh worried reader, for their airships have our concerns at heart and are keeping TriBirds out of B***a by sending them off for 4 weeks at a time to be painted grey to "Improve our corporate image"
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Having observed the "squibs" posts on here over the last few weeks and, as advised checked his profile, I can only assume, based on the ineptness (is that a real word) of his posts that he lives in the back seat of his pilots pointy thing 
Which would explain the strong smell of wee
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
Which would explain the strong smell of wee
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
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Blimey Charlie O'Riley,!!!!!!
Look at all those responses. It's times like now that I wish I was fishing
Seriously though, apart from a small amount of angry, in haste posting, I clearly don't know exactly HOW MUCH is involved in role changes between Eastern and Southern fit, but I certainly wouldn't have thought it was prohibitive. Especially not if we're getting slated in the press. During a previous posting I was witness first hand as to what could be quickly put through, and brought into service when the need arose, and I am surprised as to the action being taken in this situation.
P_T Gamekeeper,
Unfortunately I still don't think that FOM was trying to give a reasoned answer to my question. Upon re-reading it, it still seems to be a patronising fob off.
BBD, Cont Tim,
It's Friday night, Thank you for speaking slowly and clearly
Sometimes a spot of red does affect your keyboard skills
Bon Soir, Mon Amies
Look at all those responses. It's times like now that I wish I was fishing
Seriously though, apart from a small amount of angry, in haste posting, I clearly don't know exactly HOW MUCH is involved in role changes between Eastern and Southern fit, but I certainly wouldn't have thought it was prohibitive. Especially not if we're getting slated in the press. During a previous posting I was witness first hand as to what could be quickly put through, and brought into service when the need arose, and I am surprised as to the action being taken in this situation.
P_T Gamekeeper,
Unfortunately I still don't think that FOM was trying to give a reasoned answer to my question. Upon re-reading it, it still seems to be a patronising fob off.
BBD, Cont Tim,
It's Friday night, Thank you for speaking slowly and clearly
Sometimes a spot of red does affect your keyboard skills Bon Soir, Mon Amies
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It isn't a role change, its like changing a GR1 into a GR4. We only have 3, due to a lack of cash. We reap what we sow.
The relatives of any squaddie stuck in the desert should complain to their MP, or write to the Sun. The AT fleet is now the busiest operational fleet in the military. (So busy that they have no TELIC Battle Honours due to late submission of 540's - I kid you not)
The relatives of any squaddie stuck in the desert should complain to their MP, or write to the Sun. The AT fleet is now the busiest operational fleet in the military. (So busy that they have no TELIC Battle Honours due to late submission of 540's - I kid you not)
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Bu99er. A decent reply just when we were getting going. 
Typing more quickly now;
The change of fit is structural, expensive and isn't performed at BZN.
(Damn, how come PTG got in there first?)
Typing more quickly now;The change of fit is structural, expensive and isn't performed at BZN.
(Damn, how come PTG got in there first?)
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PT_G, Controversial Tim,
That makes a lot more sense now, thank you. Please excuse my ignorance.
ABIW,
...........tut..tut..tut........
Sorry about the hat thing earlier this week also
That makes a lot more sense now, thank you. Please excuse my ignorance.
ABIW,
...........tut..tut..tut........
Sorry about the hat thing earlier this week also
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To reinforce previous points, there's a difference between the Timmys needed for BSR and MPA.
MPA:
Considering how busy the 216 Sqn boys are with BSR alone, I say keep up the good work. I'm not surprised the jets are struggling..."any money to spare sir?"
And with MPA back on the horizon, I say a little appreciation to the Sqn may be in order! The jets may stumble, but I'm sure the Sqn's effort won't!
CG
MPA:
Considering how busy the 216 Sqn boys are with BSR alone, I say keep up the good work. I'm not surprised the jets are struggling..."any money to spare sir?"
And with MPA back on the horizon, I say a little appreciation to the Sqn may be in order! The jets may stumble, but I'm sure the Sqn's effort won't!
CG
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If only everyone were as pragmatic.
Let's face it, it's a great for the crews having such shabby serviceability on their ac. They could depart on time and return to their loved ones on time, dealing with happy punters (well, on the return leg!) delighted that, once again, the RAF AT fleet has picked them up so promptly in their shiny new aircraft.
But, as is obviously the case, they break them - deliberately - control the spares procurement process, and the budget, and government policy on which ac go where just so they can have a few unplanned days in the desert, again, get home late to an empty house as the missus has knobbed off with the postman, and get it in the neck from 200 pi$$ed off squaddies in the process. If they haven't left them behind, for a bit of a laugh, that is.
Right, bed.
If only everyone were as pragmatic.
Let's face it, it's a great for the crews having such shabby serviceability on their ac. They could depart on time and return to their loved ones on time, dealing with happy punters (well, on the return leg!) delighted that, once again, the RAF AT fleet has picked them up so promptly in their shiny new aircraft.
But, as is obviously the case, they break them - deliberately - control the spares procurement process, and the budget, and government policy on which ac go where just so they can have a few unplanned days in the desert, again, get home late to an empty house as the missus has knobbed off with the postman, and get it in the neck from 200 pi$$ed off squaddies in the process. If they haven't left them behind, for a bit of a laugh, that is.
Right, bed.