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Old 8th Oct 2005, 07:18
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Broken Whales

scpc. Try Northwood as rumour suggests that the damage to TF-ARG has left a sprinkling of 'stars' and a HQ at MPA with no home to go to after an exercise. RAF transport could also help to patch up the snag that, as it was a mover that split the skin, Air Atlanta Icelandic may be in no hurry to fix it. Fairford movers were having a bad day already after allegedly dropping a TF-ARG stores pallet off the back of a lorry.
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The tone of your initial post implied a lack of awareness of the differences and I don't tend to run background checks on people before replying, hence my reply. Although addressed to you it did say 'visitors to BZN...' presume one white plane is the same as another - something I think exacerbates the problem - ignorance of the masses, including those who fund us!

It is human nature to imagine nothing is wrong if a line of a/c are still sat at home base despite 'bleaters' claiming overstretch. Closer investigation would reveal they are either incapable of the task, waiting spares or waiting manpower. Until we lose our armed forces won't be seriously overhauled to meet the task.
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Old 9th Oct 2005, 07:28
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It ain't just at Fairford where holes are getting punched into the poor old knackered 747 (apparently due to retire in Jan 06). I can remember an occurance of a water bowser getting a little too close for comfort and extending a few peoples stay at the open prison for a few hours.
Speed tape saved the day again.
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Old 12th Oct 2005, 16:01
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Just to make it simple all C2's which can go to Basra will be painted British Racing Green.

All K1's will be Grey.

All KC1's will be Blue.

I hope that helps,

In our spare time(joke) we will be forming a Tristar Air display team to rival the red arrows,

That is of course if we can get shifties away from Painting the hangar at BZN when they whould be working at FFD servicing the A/C.

Looking foward to returnig to Asi, makes a nice change from Basra.. thanks movers!
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Old 12th Oct 2005, 16:11
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Data Lynx,

If a load fell from the lorry it was down to the driver not the movers...!!!

Drivers responsibility for the load, no matter what vehicle it is...!!!

L1011GE....

LYE no different, the masses dont know the diff between a MK1 or MK3 Herc let alone chucking a J into the equation...
How many times have the uneducated said

"well there are loads more aircraft out there".....!!!!

Not realising the bigger picture or the fact the aircraft need to be re-roled etc etc....
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So, Mr Logistics Loader, you have the big picture do you ?

I for one have not got a clue what the "big picture" is, so could you share it with us all ?

Oh yes, and if you know of the whereabouts of the RAF's "lost plot" could you also please let us know where that is too.

Cheers

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Old 13th Oct 2005, 17:01
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Dear Log & Load. I stand corrected for being flippant. The grumble should have been better focused at the fork-lift driver who appeared to practice the withdrawal method faster than a squaddie round the back of the Naafi. His forks were out of the pallet before it was safely onboard the lorry. Not sure if the lorry driver is guilty.
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Old 13th Oct 2005, 17:14
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SH,
Not everyone will have the inside knowledge as to why several "spare" aircraft are sat in a row...
Various reasons could be,
broken,
wrong fit inside the aircraft for the task reqd...
a/c reqd for standby for "special" duties ie Submarine recovery..
the list could go on...

I dont know about the RAF losing the plot, maybe the MOD has...!!

DL,
To my mind it was the Forklift driver at fault to a point, however as most military forklift ops tend to use a marshaller/safety man, it could be argued he is to blame.....!!!
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Old 13th Oct 2005, 19:27
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If a load fell from the lorry it was down to the driver not the movers...!!!
the fork-lift driver who appeared to practice the withdrawal method faster than a squaddie round the back of the Naafi
Hmmmm...... Not wanting to seem like I'm mover bashing, but this has "Cowboy Mover" written all over it!!

And come on, for somebody who has supposed to have been in the RAF for 20+ years, with an anecdote for every occasion, are you really suggesting for one minute that the forklift driver was using a marshaller/banksman? Seriously!!

According to the orders we sign every year for our FMT600, we are supposed to have a marshaller every time we reverse a service vehicle

And of course we all do that don't we?

Don't we??...................
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Old 13th Oct 2005, 19:31
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Cant vouch for this incident as i was not there...

But we all know rules are broken and its not always practical is it...get help to reverse,, cant see many rodneys going to SHQ and asking a passing airman to assist in reverse parking....

Makes me chuckle thinking about it though
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Did some one mention the 'Big Picture'?

I have it on good authority its away for framing at the moment!
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Away for DOWNSIZING and framing, surely?
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Old 14th Oct 2005, 08:18
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Is it due back soon???
Guess due to downsizing it'll be a 6x4 print then !!!
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I am led to believe that when it does come back it will be in a green frame, with a dark blue border.

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Old 14th Oct 2005, 08:53
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In sepia tones, so that people can get all nostalgic.
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Behind frosted glass?
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and in a darkened room
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Hanging on the back of the toilet cubicle door?
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No door- gone to mend 747!
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I've heard the T* sat in ASI for 3days as there is 4ft of snow on ground in MPN....

The waiting continues.........
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