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'Sport is for people who aren't getting enough sex.'
The late James Hunt was once quoted saying 'sex is the breakfast of champions'
If you consider motor racing to be a sport then you could say that he had the best of both worlds!
So 16B, do you consider yourself to be a good driver or unfit or, like James Hunt a little bit of both?
'Sport is for people who aren't getting enough sex.'
The late James Hunt was once quoted saying 'sex is the breakfast of champions'
If you consider motor racing to be a sport then you could say that he had the best of both worlds!
So 16B, do you consider yourself to be a good driver or unfit or, like James Hunt a little bit of both?
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'BEags,
thought it was obvious dear chap, the Regt w****** and the PEd types.'
It still hasn't been made clear quite how the Regt are to 'blame' for this, or how we will create any jobs as a result. Did UBL or anyone else you don't like have a hand in it also?
BTW, once in a blue moon someone does, unfortunately, keel over and die during the current fitness tests. It happened a few months ago as a matter of fact, and the RAF fitness test has not subsequently been binned for medico/legal reasons. It is a scientifically formulated test which is capable of standing scrutiny, as the new OFT will be also.
'BEags,
thought it was obvious dear chap, the Regt w****** and the PEd types.'
It still hasn't been made clear quite how the Regt are to 'blame' for this, or how we will create any jobs as a result. Did UBL or anyone else you don't like have a hand in it also?
BTW, once in a blue moon someone does, unfortunately, keel over and die during the current fitness tests. It happened a few months ago as a matter of fact, and the RAF fitness test has not subsequently been binned for medico/legal reasons. It is a scientifically formulated test which is capable of standing scrutiny, as the new OFT will be also.
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Have to agree with Beags
I know at least 5 chaps over the last 10 years who killed themselves trying to keep fit at lunchtime or to pass the test - 2 of them had RAF colours for Squash and Athletics
I was lucky when the 1992 test came in - in my age group, I was technically allowed a week to walk the length of the gym - I decided on the easier option and drove past the gym on the way home. I maintained (and still do) my fitness, on my diet, lifestyle and choice of exercise, hence, I continue as "FIT" in my Log Book, with a PME of A1G1Z1.
Fitness is not measured by bleeps; it's measured by heart/pulse recovery rate after physical exertion
That's why some people can still breath through their nose having run 100m in 10 secs, but cannot manage 15 press-ups in the required bleep time
"Love Many, Trust a Few, They're chasing stats and looking at you!"
I know at least 5 chaps over the last 10 years who killed themselves trying to keep fit at lunchtime or to pass the test - 2 of them had RAF colours for Squash and Athletics
I was lucky when the 1992 test came in - in my age group, I was technically allowed a week to walk the length of the gym - I decided on the easier option and drove past the gym on the way home. I maintained (and still do) my fitness, on my diet, lifestyle and choice of exercise, hence, I continue as "FIT" in my Log Book, with a PME of A1G1Z1.
Fitness is not measured by bleeps; it's measured by heart/pulse recovery rate after physical exertion
That's why some people can still breath through their nose having run 100m in 10 secs, but cannot manage 15 press-ups in the required bleep time
"Love Many, Trust a Few, They're chasing stats and looking at you!"
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Got to agree with that. Not everyone is built like a whippet, after all.
My last 1.5mile time was something like 12:33. That said on a 15 mile tab a few days later, I beat the bloke with the quickest time by a good 20mins.
My last 1.5mile time was something like 12:33. That said on a 15 mile tab a few days later, I beat the bloke with the quickest time by a good 20mins.
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Start training..... there is a highly qualified PEd Flt that can give you guidance! Ask guardroom for directions to Gymnasium.
When I pitched up and asked if I could get some help improving my fitness, they looked at me as if I had two heads. I think the best I got out of them was to "use the machines, maybe go swimming."
I'd love it if they could actually put together a proper fitness program for you. If I knew one of them was waiting for me in the gym to take notes and track my progress, I'd be a lot more likely to go there instead of the bar. Notwithstanding that, with them helping out my training would be focussed, technically correct, and a lot more beneficial....
L1A2 suggested that under rules due to come into place in future failing you annual fitness test 4 times would lead to an admin discharge. I can see a couple of problems with this.
Firstly, as L1A2 suggests it is one way of getting out for people in trades with long PVR waiting times. Also an Admin discharge does not carry the financial penalties that a PVR often does/can.
Then there is the legal aspect. I know several people in the RAF, and there must be quite a few, who are permanetly 'excused' fitness tests for medical reasons (often knee problems). Now if we are going to discharge people who fail it, but not those who cannot complete it, that would seem to me to be discriminatory. Why are some people who don't meet the fitness criteria retained and others discharged? No doubt a smart lawyer/barrister or industrial tribuneral could take the MOD to the cleaners over it, for a 6 figure sum. I don't particular agree with a lot of 'touchy feely' human rights type law, but as long as it is out there it will be used!!
Incidently, surely the only 'scientific' fitness test the RAF employs is the bike test for 'old gits', as it actually measures VO2 max?
Firstly, as L1A2 suggests it is one way of getting out for people in trades with long PVR waiting times. Also an Admin discharge does not carry the financial penalties that a PVR often does/can.
Then there is the legal aspect. I know several people in the RAF, and there must be quite a few, who are permanetly 'excused' fitness tests for medical reasons (often knee problems). Now if we are going to discharge people who fail it, but not those who cannot complete it, that would seem to me to be discriminatory. Why are some people who don't meet the fitness criteria retained and others discharged? No doubt a smart lawyer/barrister or industrial tribuneral could take the MOD to the cleaners over it, for a 6 figure sum. I don't particular agree with a lot of 'touchy feely' human rights type law, but as long as it is out there it will be used!!
Incidently, surely the only 'scientific' fitness test the RAF employs is the bike test for 'old gits', as it actually measures VO2 max?
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Would they also bin a CR(S) aircrew guy/gal who was A1G1Z1, did all the right things, sec. duties, etc, but could not, for one reason or another (non-medical), pass the bleep test?
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Of course not. Let them stay in the forces and come the day when they are behind enemy lines and have to evade they can just take a nap instead and wait for the interrogation!
Biggus.
Are we talking about a 'Kingcycle' test, with the full rig? I doubt it. That is the true way to test. Bleeps can also be related to VO2 max, although a more crude method. Can't see anyone cycling away from the enemy though!
BV
Of course not. Let them stay in the forces and come the day when they are behind enemy lines and have to evade they can just take a nap instead and wait for the interrogation!
Biggus.
Are we talking about a 'Kingcycle' test, with the full rig? I doubt it. That is the true way to test. Bleeps can also be related to VO2 max, although a more crude method. Can't see anyone cycling away from the enemy though!
BV
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Gentlemen,
Once again I have to agree with BEagle as your reasoning would have deprived the RAF of such people as Air Commodore Freddie West VC; Group Captain Sir Douglas Bader DSO* DFC* and Sgt Colin Hutchison - all amputees.
Those who advocate utilising the Army's approach woul do well to remember the Royal Artillery Warrant Officer who was deemed too old (at 55) for active duty and was sent as an Anti-Aircraft Liaision Officer to Bomber Command Headquarters for the duration.
This Gentleman (at the end of Operations in Europe in 1945) was awarded by the RAF the DFC as, in his "off duty" periods, he participated in Bomber Operations as a volunteer Air Gunner. He completed one operation for each year of his life - which by the end of hostilities was 62!!!!
Once again I have to agree with BEagle as your reasoning would have deprived the RAF of such people as Air Commodore Freddie West VC; Group Captain Sir Douglas Bader DSO* DFC* and Sgt Colin Hutchison - all amputees.
Those who advocate utilising the Army's approach woul do well to remember the Royal Artillery Warrant Officer who was deemed too old (at 55) for active duty and was sent as an Anti-Aircraft Liaision Officer to Bomber Command Headquarters for the duration.
This Gentleman (at the end of Operations in Europe in 1945) was awarded by the RAF the DFC as, in his "off duty" periods, he participated in Bomber Operations as a volunteer Air Gunner. He completed one operation for each year of his life - which by the end of hostilities was 62!!!!
If your job involves sitting about drinking coffee and chatting on the radio you probably don't need to be as fit as the bloke who runs about with a bergan on and digs holes for amusement or indeed the chap who may normally sit in an airconditioned office until the driver parks it in the wrong place and who then has to do the running about thing.....
ergo: If you are fit enough to do your job, great, if not, you will be found out most probably at a really bad time and will have let your mates down.
ps it's amazing what a fat kn@cker can do when scared witless!
So in summary.. oh I just can't be bothered.
There are some things in life that don't really matter, most things don't matter at all!
ergo: If you are fit enough to do your job, great, if not, you will be found out most probably at a really bad time and will have let your mates down.
ps it's amazing what a fat kn@cker can do when scared witless!
So in summary.. oh I just can't be bothered.
There are some things in life that don't really matter, most things don't matter at all!
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downhiller...
Don't buy a CD for the bleep test. To work up before you join or if you want to train outside PEd Flt Hrs use this MP3 file, (lots of ways to convert MP3 to CD format on the web if you haven't got one of the white box things). Haven’t found the software to convert to 78 RPM for BEagle yet.
BLEEP TEST MP3
Don't buy a CD for the bleep test. To work up before you join or if you want to train outside PEd Flt Hrs use this MP3 file, (lots of ways to convert MP3 to CD format on the web if you haven't got one of the white box things). Haven’t found the software to convert to 78 RPM for BEagle yet.
BLEEP TEST MP3
78 rpm is a bit modern, actually. And the damn dog keeps sticking his head down the trumpet.....
Wax cylinders will never be replaced!
Wax cylinders will never be replaced!
Rakshasa, that rings a bell, on the same IOT was a racing snake whippet type, do the mile and a half in about 7 minutes flat - in trainers. Put some boots and webbing on and he slowed down to the same as the rest of us, add an A-pack and he could hardly move.
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Fitness needs a lot to be desired!
Just returned from Blighty and OASC and was amazed by the lack of fitness and prepardness by potential O Corps candidates.
Me as a high end 30 year old put most young whipper snappers to shame. 4th out of 17 in tests. (very good grade on new test levels) They were a great bunch of people and will make fine officers I am sure, and wish them good luck, but everyone who goes for selection needs to train and prepare hard.
Got to go, need to go for me morning run ....... I think I am on my way back to blighty, flying side
Hoist to crew Winching over and definately not out!
Me as a high end 30 year old put most young whipper snappers to shame. 4th out of 17 in tests. (very good grade on new test levels) They were a great bunch of people and will make fine officers I am sure, and wish them good luck, but everyone who goes for selection needs to train and prepare hard.
Got to go, need to go for me morning run ....... I think I am on my way back to blighty, flying side
Hoist to crew Winching over and definately not out!
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Tried dancing to that download - must be some kind of 'modern' music, no hint of a proper tune. Now what's all this about sandbags? - I was quite content with my 7 press-ups (not rushing of course)
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TA Army Fitness Guide
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Joe
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