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Bit of info, A guy in Guildford has got the nose section of the prototype, last I herd was that he was looking for bits to bring it up to spec, which was a shame as I remember seeing skips loaded with bits he could have used at Hurn, all I believe heading to the scrap man.
Although the main fuselage was kept a lot of work still has to be done to bring it up to spec.
Although the main fuselage was kept a lot of work still has to be done to bring it up to spec.
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Read my previous threads
That lovely man at Warton in those early days knew what Nimrod was about to do and built the beast well over spec. Where it should be 8mm it was 10 - where it was 12 it was 14 etc. etc.
XV247 is a rogue ac; it's numbers add up to 13 (unlucky for some)
On the 13Sep83, No 2 engine sucked in and killed a Cpl engine fitter during a ground run on Bay 13 at ISK.
Later, during a major servicing - 13Nov84 - a Sgt Airframe Fitter was paralysed for life when his head was trapped in the air- brakes.
I'm not superstsious like, but I never took a Life-Jacket whose numbers add up to 13.
Love many, Trust a few, Always paddle your own canoe
Read my previous threads
That lovely man at Warton in those early days knew what Nimrod was about to do and built the beast well over spec. Where it should be 8mm it was 10 - where it was 12 it was 14 etc. etc.
XV247 is a rogue ac; it's numbers add up to 13 (unlucky for some)
On the 13Sep83, No 2 engine sucked in and killed a Cpl engine fitter during a ground run on Bay 13 at ISK.
Later, during a major servicing - 13Nov84 - a Sgt Airframe Fitter was paralysed for life when his head was trapped in the air- brakes.
I'm not superstsious like, but I never took a Life-Jacket whose numbers add up to 13.
Love many, Trust a few, Always paddle your own canoe
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Not wanting to change the thread, but you are correct about both 29 and 47, the latter was a nasty beast indeed.
There were many a liney in my time at ISK who refused to go onto 29 at night alone. A particular good buddy of mine (rigger) swore blind he saw someone/something in the galley of 29 one night and after that refused point blank to go onto it alone in the dark.
I remember one girly engine fitter doing a refuel actually talking to something which vanished, again on 29 she was completly mortified for the rest of the night.
There are 4 nimrods that add up to 13
29, 38, 47, & 83
And dont mention 666
Not wanting to change the thread, but you are correct about both 29 and 47, the latter was a nasty beast indeed.
There were many a liney in my time at ISK who refused to go onto 29 at night alone. A particular good buddy of mine (rigger) swore blind he saw someone/something in the galley of 29 one night and after that refused point blank to go onto it alone in the dark.
I remember one girly engine fitter doing a refuel actually talking to something which vanished, again on 29 she was completly mortified for the rest of the night.
There are 4 nimrods that add up to 13
29, 38, 47, & 83
And dont mention 666
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Ah.... I Forgot about 56,
In the early 90,s ISK started painting a nice badge by the Port back door with a Sqn crews name above and Crew Chief,s name below, I was told mine would be put on 29, which I promptly declined, much because of the aircrafts spooky reputation.
I finally got my name on '30, a much better jet, 'cos being a bit of a Harry Potter, 30 was the first Nimrod delivered to the RAF for sqn service. (OCU St Mawgan 1969), which appealed to me much more.
BT
Ah.... I Forgot about 56,
In the early 90,s ISK started painting a nice badge by the Port back door with a Sqn crews name above and Crew Chief,s name below, I was told mine would be put on 29, which I promptly declined, much because of the aircrafts spooky reputation.
I finally got my name on '30, a much better jet, 'cos being a bit of a Harry Potter, 30 was the first Nimrod delivered to the RAF for sqn service. (OCU St Mawgan 1969), which appealed to me much more.
BT
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NFTC had a very lucky escape with 29 on Rum Punch some years ago
Started with a flying control restriction - did the changeover drills and headed for Nassau. By the time they reached the end of the runway the whole system locked up.
A sequence valve in the cracking strut servodyne thingy in the Aeileron bay had been fitted upside down at birth - amazingly it functioned properly all those years
They even traced the fitter from AVRO at Warton, long since retired, who recalled exactly how he assembled it - upside down!
Great bit of detective work by the BOI and engineers
My crew flew it back from Florida - I remember it well - it was one of the quietest transits I have ever done
That's the only claim to fame I know of regarding 29 - never heard of the ghosty things - strange?
Started with a flying control restriction - did the changeover drills and headed for Nassau. By the time they reached the end of the runway the whole system locked up.
A sequence valve in the cracking strut servodyne thingy in the Aeileron bay had been fitted upside down at birth - amazingly it functioned properly all those years
They even traced the fitter from AVRO at Warton, long since retired, who recalled exactly how he assembled it - upside down!
Great bit of detective work by the BOI and engineers
My crew flew it back from Florida - I remember it well - it was one of the quietest transits I have ever done
That's the only claim to fame I know of regarding 29 - never heard of the ghosty things - strange?
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I was there too.......
it got named "The Bahama Mama"
Wasn,t there a couple of Green Endorsements dished out, didn,t the Eng get one.
If I recall it was a complete sod of a job to fix it, took a crew from ISK 2 weeks in Nassau to sort it out.
BT
I was there too.......
it got named "The Bahama Mama"
Wasn,t there a couple of Green Endorsements dished out, didn,t the Eng get one.
If I recall it was a complete sod of a job to fix it, took a crew from ISK 2 weeks in Nassau to sort it out.
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Back to the MRA4..........and sorry if I,ve missed it
Why haven't the beasts been painted properly yet. are they keeping the weight down, which I can,t believe
I thought the grey paint job was approved already
They look poxy in primer
BT
Why haven't the beasts been painted properly yet. are they keeping the weight down, which I can,t believe
I thought the grey paint job was approved already
They look poxy in primer
BT
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They even traced the fitter from AVRO at Warton...
Unless those many nights out at Bredbury Hall got rid of more brain cells than I thought at the time!
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229 First started mis-behaving in Nordholtz having her now famous uncontrolled flying control movements. Something spooky about a beast that wants to dive into the sea, it was not new to us as we did have Skippy as a Co-pilot, dont mention the windsurfers!!
Now then Mr eff you back at work yet and got your sorry ass into the air, it makes your ears go pop! and of course
Heard rumours (DQI 2) a decision could be soon it is a rumour network after all.
Charlie sends
Now then Mr eff you back at work yet and got your sorry ass into the air, it makes your ears go pop! and of course
Heard rumours (DQI 2) a decision could be soon it is a rumour network after all.
Charlie sends
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Charlie,
that would be Skippy "I've lost it, I've lost it" when flying at 200' losing the sound from his headset, unfortunately for the rest of the brown trousered crew his mic was still working.
Or "All I have to do is push forward and I will take you all with me" - did not stay at ISK very long after that.
that would be Skippy "I've lost it, I've lost it" when flying at 200' losing the sound from his headset, unfortunately for the rest of the brown trousered crew his mic was still working.
Or "All I have to do is push forward and I will take you all with me" - did not stay at ISK very long after that.
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Does Bredbury Hall still exist????
But as to whether or not it is still the same Bredbury Hall that we know and love.....
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It is fair to say the avionics and various other systems on the MRA4 are still in the development stage therefore we have to expect to suffer some teething problems. But having the upmost confidence in the BAE engineers, i'm sure thiese will be overcome.
When the MOD decided to use the old airframes from the Mk2 aircraft, what wasn't taken into account was the fact that these airframes were practically hand built compared with todays manufacturing processes (i.e. use of close tolerance jigs, fixture and CAD packages). This resulted in a Mk2 fleet with structural variations of up to a 2" between the aircraft.
However, the new built assemblies such as wings, tailplane finlets etc, for the MRA4 were designed and built using close tolerance CAD packages, jigs and fixtures. and so all new built assemblies were identical.
Major structural problems therefore arose when trying to mate the new and old assemblies. The same effect you would get fitting the same dia bolt into varying hole sizes.
Perhaps the plan is to prove the MRA4 sytems on board PA01 to PA03, then look at various other platforms???
It is fair to say the avionics and various other systems on the MRA4 are still in the development stage therefore we have to expect to suffer some teething problems. But having the upmost confidence in the BAE engineers, i\'m sure thiese will be overcome.
When the MOD decided to use the old airframes from the Mk2 aircraft, what wasn\'t taken into account was the fact that these airframes were practically hand built compared with todays manufacturing processes (i.e. use of close tolerance jigs, fixture and CAD packages). This resulted in a Mk2 fleet with structural variations of up to a 2" between the aircraft.
However, the new built assemblies such as wings, tailplane finlets etc, for the MRA4 were designed and built using close tolerance CAD packages, jigs and fixtures. and so all new built assemblies were identical.
Major structural problems therefore arose when trying to mate the new and old assemblies. The same effect you would get fitting the same dia bolt into varying hole sizes.
Perhaps the plan is to prove the MRA4 sytems on board PA01 to PA03, then look at various other platforms???
When the MOD decided to use the old airframes from the Mk2 aircraft, what wasn't taken into account was the fact that these airframes were practically hand built compared with todays manufacturing processes (i.e. use of close tolerance jigs, fixture and CAD packages). This resulted in a Mk2 fleet with structural variations of up to a 2" between the aircraft.
However, the new built assemblies such as wings, tailplane finlets etc, for the MRA4 were designed and built using close tolerance CAD packages, jigs and fixtures. and so all new built assemblies were identical.
Major structural problems therefore arose when trying to mate the new and old assemblies. The same effect you would get fitting the same dia bolt into varying hole sizes.
Perhaps the plan is to prove the MRA4 sytems on board PA01 to PA03, then look at various other platforms???
It is fair to say the avionics and various other systems on the MRA4 are still in the development stage therefore we have to expect to suffer some teething problems. But having the upmost confidence in the BAE engineers, i\'m sure thiese will be overcome.
When the MOD decided to use the old airframes from the Mk2 aircraft, what wasn\'t taken into account was the fact that these airframes were practically hand built compared with todays manufacturing processes (i.e. use of close tolerance jigs, fixture and CAD packages). This resulted in a Mk2 fleet with structural variations of up to a 2" between the aircraft.
However, the new built assemblies such as wings, tailplane finlets etc, for the MRA4 were designed and built using close tolerance CAD packages, jigs and fixtures. and so all new built assemblies were identical.
Major structural problems therefore arose when trying to mate the new and old assemblies. The same effect you would get fitting the same dia bolt into varying hole sizes.
Perhaps the plan is to prove the MRA4 sytems on board PA01 to PA03, then look at various other platforms???
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You keep repeating yourself mate
Hope the CADAM team don't do the same
By the way, only the outboard leading edges and the wing boxes were hand built.
Hello, is that Bredbury Hall, ah yes, about my liver transplant.
Thank you Mr Sykes, see you tonight on the chanderlier!
Happy days!
You keep repeating yourself mate
Hope the CADAM team don't do the same
By the way, only the outboard leading edges and the wing boxes were hand built.
Hello, is that Bredbury Hall, ah yes, about my liver transplant.
Thank you Mr Sykes, see you tonight on the chanderlier!
Happy days!