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A heathen is "One who adheres to the religion of a people or nation that does not acknowledge the God of Judaism, Christianity, or Islam."
Thank you Oxford Dictionary.
If this chap's practices don't harm anyone else on board, why should they be stopped? The problem will be the attitude of the rest of the crew but, whether it's right or wrong, that no longer seems to be the overriding factor in such decisions.
Interesting to hear about his "ritual chamber" though. Will the Padres have to conduct services in the same room, or is there enough space on Type 22s for every religion to have their own room?
Well I will put my hand up and admit I didn't check the dictionary first. I was labouring under the illusion that a heathen was regarded by the CofE to be anyone outside of that particular faith..... it's been a long time since I went to church so I'm not completely up to speed with the terminology.
My point was this: We bend over backwards to make the mob open to all races, sexes and disabilities, no one group is allowed to be excluded.... why should one person be excluded because of his (odd) beliefs.
We shall reap what we sow....
My point was this: We bend over backwards to make the mob open to all races, sexes and disabilities, no one group is allowed to be excluded.... why should one person be excluded because of his (odd) beliefs.
We shall reap what we sow....
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As an atheist who only ever goes to churches for weddings etc I am often quite amazed by some of the words used during the services. All the "praise Him" and "thanks be to Him" and the "with His blessing" just seems a little silly and, quite frankly, obsequious to me - when I go to these ceremonies I tend to keep my mouth shut for all that stuff.
I couldn't care less whether the thing being praised is God, Jaweh, Vishnu, Allah, Satan, Zeus, Gaia, Huitzilopochtli, Ra or some form of holy gerbil - so long as the person doing the worshipping neither expects me to join their ceremonies or belief system nor allows their beliefs to infringe my (or others') secular rights, yet still manages to do their job in a professional manner, then they can crack on.
I couldn't care less whether the thing being praised is God, Jaweh, Vishnu, Allah, Satan, Zeus, Gaia, Huitzilopochtli, Ra or some form of holy gerbil - so long as the person doing the worshipping neither expects me to join their ceremonies or belief system nor allows their beliefs to infringe my (or others') secular rights, yet still manages to do their job in a professional manner, then they can crack on.
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The Captain's and RN's dispassionate and banal responses are exactly what was required and have ensured a mountain hasn't been made out of this mole hill.
If this sailor genuinely believes in his 'religion', at least he isn't being a hypocrite, like so many people, who claim to follow the Judeo-Christian/Muslim religions, whilst cheerfully committing every 'sin' in the book.
If this sailor genuinely believes in his 'religion', at least he isn't being a hypocrite, like so many people, who claim to follow the Judeo-Christian/Muslim religions, whilst cheerfully committing every 'sin' in the book.
If you believe in nothing.............or have no moral code to begin with (unlike every other faith I know of - and non religous belief systems and philosophies like Humanism)......
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Folks,
I've just been on the website. See some of the stuff below and make you own minds up. As for myself I reckon some of it's utter drivel on the other hand some of it I can agree With. Time I started going back to church
The Nine Satanic Statements
1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence!
2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams!
3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit!
4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates!
5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek!
6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires!
7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,” has become the most vicious animal of all!
8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!
9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years!
The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth
1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.
3. When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.
4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.
5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
6. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.
7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
9. Do not harm little children.
10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.
11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.
The Nine Satanic Sins
1. Stupidity—The top of the list for Satanic Sins. The Cardinal Sin of Satanism. It’s too bad that stupidity isn’t painful. Ignorance is one thing, but our society thrives increasingly on stupidity. It depends on people going along with whatever they are told. The media promotes a cultivated stupidity as a posture that is not only acceptable but laudable. Satanists must learn to see through the tricks and cannot afford to be stupid.
2. Pretentiousness—Empty posturing can be most irritating and isn’t applying the cardinal rules of Lesser Magic. On equal footing with stupidity for what keeps the money in circulation these days. Everyone’s made to feel like a big shot, whether they can come up with the goods or not.
3. Solipsism—Can be very dangerous for Satanists. Projecting your reactions, responses and sensibilities onto someone who is probably far less attuned than you are. It is the mistake of expecting people to give you the same consideration, courtesy and respect that you naturally give them. They won’t. Instead, Satanists must strive to apply the dictum of “Do unto others as they do unto you.” It’s work for most of us and requires constant vigilance lest you slip into a comfortable illusion of everyone being like you. As has been said, certain utopias would be ideal in a nation of philosophers, but unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately, from a Machiavellian standpoint) we are far from that point.
4. Self-deceit—It’s in the “Nine Satanic Statements” but deserves to be repeated here. Another cardinal sin. We must not pay homage to any of the sacred cows presented to us, including the roles we are expected to play ourselves. The only time self-deceit should be entered into is when it’s fun, and with awareness. But then, it’s not self-deceit!
5. Herd Conformity—That’s obvious from a Satanic stance. It’s all right to conform to a person’s wishes, if it ultimately benefits you. But only fools follow along with the herd, letting an impersonal entity dictate to you. The key is to choose a master wisely instead of being enslaved by the whims of the many.
6. Lack of Perspective—Again, this one can lead to a lot of pain for a Satanist. You must never lose sight of who and what you are, and what a threat you can be, by your very existence. We are making history right now, every day. Always keep the wider historical and social picture in mind. That is an important key to both Lesser and Greater Magic. See the patterns and fit things together as you want the pieces to fall into place. Do not be swayed by herd constraints—know that you are working on another level entirely from the rest of the world.
7. Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxies—Be aware that this is one of the keys to brainwashing people into accepting something new and different, when in reality it’s something that was once widely accepted but is now presented in a new package. We are expected to rave about the genius of the creator and forget the original. This makes for a disposable society.
8. Counterproductive Pride—That first word is important. Pride is great up to the point you begin to throw out the baby with the bathwater. The rule of Satanism is: if it works for you, great. When it stops working for you, when you’ve painted yourself into a corner and the only way out is to say, I’m sorry, I made a mistake, I wish we could compromise somehow, then do it.
9. Lack of Aesthetics—This is the physical application of the Balance Factor. Aesthetics is important in Lesser Magic and should be cultivated. It is obvious that no one can collect any money off classical standards of beauty and form most of the time so they are discouraged in a consumer society, but an eye for beauty, for balance, is an essential Satanic tool and must be applied for greatest magical effectiveness. It’s not what’s supposed to be pleasing—it’s what is. Aesthetics is a personal thing, reflective of one’s own nature, but there are universally pleasing and harmonious configurations that should not be denied.
I've just been on the website. See some of the stuff below and make you own minds up. As for myself I reckon some of it's utter drivel on the other hand some of it I can agree With. Time I started going back to church
The Nine Satanic Statements
1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence!
2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams!
3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit!
4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates!
5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek!
6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires!
7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,” has become the most vicious animal of all!
8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!
9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years!
The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth
1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.
3. When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.
4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.
5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
6. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.
7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
9. Do not harm little children.
10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.
11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.
The Nine Satanic Sins
1. Stupidity—The top of the list for Satanic Sins. The Cardinal Sin of Satanism. It’s too bad that stupidity isn’t painful. Ignorance is one thing, but our society thrives increasingly on stupidity. It depends on people going along with whatever they are told. The media promotes a cultivated stupidity as a posture that is not only acceptable but laudable. Satanists must learn to see through the tricks and cannot afford to be stupid.
2. Pretentiousness—Empty posturing can be most irritating and isn’t applying the cardinal rules of Lesser Magic. On equal footing with stupidity for what keeps the money in circulation these days. Everyone’s made to feel like a big shot, whether they can come up with the goods or not.
3. Solipsism—Can be very dangerous for Satanists. Projecting your reactions, responses and sensibilities onto someone who is probably far less attuned than you are. It is the mistake of expecting people to give you the same consideration, courtesy and respect that you naturally give them. They won’t. Instead, Satanists must strive to apply the dictum of “Do unto others as they do unto you.” It’s work for most of us and requires constant vigilance lest you slip into a comfortable illusion of everyone being like you. As has been said, certain utopias would be ideal in a nation of philosophers, but unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately, from a Machiavellian standpoint) we are far from that point.
4. Self-deceit—It’s in the “Nine Satanic Statements” but deserves to be repeated here. Another cardinal sin. We must not pay homage to any of the sacred cows presented to us, including the roles we are expected to play ourselves. The only time self-deceit should be entered into is when it’s fun, and with awareness. But then, it’s not self-deceit!
5. Herd Conformity—That’s obvious from a Satanic stance. It’s all right to conform to a person’s wishes, if it ultimately benefits you. But only fools follow along with the herd, letting an impersonal entity dictate to you. The key is to choose a master wisely instead of being enslaved by the whims of the many.
6. Lack of Perspective—Again, this one can lead to a lot of pain for a Satanist. You must never lose sight of who and what you are, and what a threat you can be, by your very existence. We are making history right now, every day. Always keep the wider historical and social picture in mind. That is an important key to both Lesser and Greater Magic. See the patterns and fit things together as you want the pieces to fall into place. Do not be swayed by herd constraints—know that you are working on another level entirely from the rest of the world.
7. Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxies—Be aware that this is one of the keys to brainwashing people into accepting something new and different, when in reality it’s something that was once widely accepted but is now presented in a new package. We are expected to rave about the genius of the creator and forget the original. This makes for a disposable society.
8. Counterproductive Pride—That first word is important. Pride is great up to the point you begin to throw out the baby with the bathwater. The rule of Satanism is: if it works for you, great. When it stops working for you, when you’ve painted yourself into a corner and the only way out is to say, I’m sorry, I made a mistake, I wish we could compromise somehow, then do it.
9. Lack of Aesthetics—This is the physical application of the Balance Factor. Aesthetics is important in Lesser Magic and should be cultivated. It is obvious that no one can collect any money off classical standards of beauty and form most of the time so they are discouraged in a consumer society, but an eye for beauty, for balance, is an essential Satanic tool and must be applied for greatest magical effectiveness. It’s not what’s supposed to be pleasing—it’s what is. Aesthetics is a personal thing, reflective of one’s own nature, but there are universally pleasing and harmonious configurations that should not be denied.
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I can’t believe most of the people on this website and in military in general. There is an important difference between being overly politically correct and being stupidly restrictive but most military members seem to take it to the opposite extreme; how can some people (ie. most people on this thread) be so intolerant and excessively conservative?
This individual clearly has the right to choose to practice any religion he wants, I do not believe in Christianity or any religion but I don’t dictate how people who do should live. Personally I think most religions are little more than brainwashing to keep ‘the masses’ in line but I don’t insult religious people with this view unless they try to force their own views on me.
To be completely frank people who claim to be Christians whilst involved in military action in Iraq and Afghanistan (to name a few) are blatant hypocrites.
Your own way of doing things isn’t necessarily always the best way, try to keep an open mind and don’t ridicule other people just because you don’t believe or understand what they do.
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This individual clearly has the right to choose to practice any religion he wants, I do not believe in Christianity or any religion but I don’t dictate how people who do should live. Personally I think most religions are little more than brainwashing to keep ‘the masses’ in line but I don’t insult religious people with this view unless they try to force their own views on me.
To be completely frank people who claim to be Christians whilst involved in military action in Iraq and Afghanistan (to name a few) are blatant hypocrites.
Your own way of doing things isn’t necessarily always the best way, try to keep an open mind and don’t ridicule other people just because you don’t believe or understand what they do.
PO
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Hasn't he broken rule 1? Giving his opinions on Satan to the world? As were all the other Satanists today, telling us what they think of this, that and t'other.
Secondly, why is he allowed to express his opinions on religion, the military and the world, but we aren't? Freedom of speech an all that works both way doesn't it?
Oh, and what is this mating signal? Do i need to know it??
Secondly, why is he allowed to express his opinions on religion, the military and the world, but we aren't? Freedom of speech an all that works both way doesn't it?
Oh, and what is this mating signal? Do i need to know it??
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I could well be wrong, but I suspect that what we might have here is an "easy" on a magnificent scale. If that's so, outstanding...
If not, well, I've met people in the mob with some fairly hardcore personal hobbies and they've not always incurred any nasty treatment. 2 deck and below tend to dish it out when someone's being a real pain and causing grief in their peer group - would be interesting to be closer to this situation to see what develops, if anything at all.
If not, well, I've met people in the mob with some fairly hardcore personal hobbies and they've not always incurred any nasty treatment. 2 deck and below tend to dish it out when someone's being a real pain and causing grief in their peer group - would be interesting to be closer to this situation to see what develops, if anything at all.
Next question is dietary preferences?
Many years ago on an exercise a whole lot of us suddenly converted to Judaism after seeing what kosher mess food was like compared to the slop we were eating.
Many years ago on an exercise a whole lot of us suddenly converted to Judaism after seeing what kosher mess food was like compared to the slop we were eating.
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What a coinicidence that this story makes headline news just before Halloween!!!
I think it's wrong and certainly wouldn't want to be on th same ship as this Satanist!
However, each to their own.
I think it's wrong and certainly wouldn't want to be on th same ship as this Satanist!
However, each to their own.