Gulf War MkI Press Association Video
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Don't mind whichever way it works guys, but as long as we've got fingers in many pies........
Let you know if my angle works.
Either way, whoever ends up with the copy, could make a boatload for chariddy mate!!!!
Let you know if my angle works.
Either way, whoever ends up with the copy, could make a boatload for chariddy mate!!!!
Stoppers - I'm sure that 'Frankie the Porn' from your ULAS days would have a mate who has a mate who could, err, sort it squire?
And you lot thought we didn't know.....
And you lot thought we didn't know.....
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Does anyone think it's worth approaching a company to do this properly ie getting decent quality copies, sorting out copyright, donations to Ben fund etc? any ideas? Does anyone know a company that might take it on?
kind regards
TSM
kind regards
TSM
I suspect that 'sorting out the copyright' will make the project either impossible or unaffordable. Keeping it as a 'boot' and sending donations to the Ben Fund (or whatever) would at least make it possible.
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I was on the ground for the first bunfight. I remember seeing you guys going over at night, didn't appreciate what you were going into at the time as we didn't get to see it all on TV.
I have heard of the video and would love a copy.
Cheers
I have heard of the video and would love a copy.
Cheers
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International customer for shonky Video deal
I'll be in for a few Pacific Pesos to whichever cause is chosen....My old VHS copy was dying and is currently MIA. Must admit that it was a particularly stirring compilation.
As for the stinkbugs getting credit for the Banana Jet's LGB, Joe bag'o Donots on the street would swear that they were fitted with Pavetack if you didn't know that 70% of the WSV accredited to them by our beloved media was from Varks!
As for the stinkbugs getting credit for the Banana Jet's LGB, Joe bag'o Donots on the street would swear that they were fitted with Pavetack if you didn't know that 70% of the WSV accredited to them by our beloved media was from Varks!
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I'll go for a DVD too. My 10th-generation VHS copy went tits-up years ago.
Incidentally, my VHS had the TV-AM stuff followed by about 20 minutes of TIALD video with overlaid CVR.
ST
Incidentally, my VHS had the TV-AM stuff followed by about 20 minutes of TIALD video with overlaid CVR.
ST
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There were 2 guys doing 'official' airborne video for the UK TV news pool during GW1 - Stroppy Jock in Bahrain & Stocko in Dhahran
There were 2 music videos made, 27 mins in total. I made & distributed many copies to guys from 17(F), 617 & XV(R) sqn and anyone at Lossie who asked. Those that know can now probably guess my identity!
Bahrains had Phil Collins, Whitesnake + ??
Sky's version from Dhahran had Huey Lewis & the News, George Michael Freedom and a couple of others. They added Bette Middler, Wind beneath My Wings as an afterthought.
I have a Sky TV News original, 1st generation copy as I worked rather closely with them & also have a 1st generation copy of the TV AM Bahrain Bits.
Because of a close, personal interest, I have most of the rest of the original material that was taken. No-one seemed much interested at the time.
Unfortunately I am in warmer climes and it's all in storage. I hope to get it out in ~Summer 05 when I shall try to get it all onto digital once I can get my video capture card working in the UK
Hope you guys can get the DVD or wait till then
Sorry I can't get it now!
There were 2 music videos made, 27 mins in total. I made & distributed many copies to guys from 17(F), 617 & XV(R) sqn and anyone at Lossie who asked. Those that know can now probably guess my identity!
Bahrains had Phil Collins, Whitesnake + ??
Sky's version from Dhahran had Huey Lewis & the News, George Michael Freedom and a couple of others. They added Bette Middler, Wind beneath My Wings as an afterthought.
I have a Sky TV News original, 1st generation copy as I worked rather closely with them & also have a 1st generation copy of the TV AM Bahrain Bits.
Because of a close, personal interest, I have most of the rest of the original material that was taken. No-one seemed much interested at the time.
Unfortunately I am in warmer climes and it's all in storage. I hope to get it out in ~Summer 05 when I shall try to get it all onto digital once I can get my video capture card working in the UK
Hope you guys can get the DVD or wait till then
Sorry I can't get it now!
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OK. I can answer questions about copyright / legal stuff on this. I am an ex-mil pilot with no vested interest - just a bit of local knowledge. The video which was originally referred to is in 2 halves - the first bit with Phil Collins, the second bit with Whitesnake. It was done by TVAM. Their archive library is now owned by 2 companies - one owns news footage, the other owns the rest. The second company has the original Phil Collins stuff in high quality format, which you could run copies from under licence for private use only. I do not know where the original of the Whitesnake stuff is.
I have made enquiries about the footage -it is available at commercial rates - 8 mins of the Phil collins stuff is going to be a minimum of £1500 plus VAT. The company claims to own copyright by virtue of owning the library, although I suspect that you could make a strong case that it ought to be Crown copyright. The music is a separate issue. I would suggest that if it is for private use only, don't ask questions you don't want to hear the answer to.
In summary, bottom line is that the Phil Collins stuff is available, but expensive. Making copies of it is not strictly legal, but unlikely to get you into trouble if only used privately, especially given that the company's claim to the footage is a little tenuous (taken by RAF aircrew from RAF jets). If somebody wants to go ahead with this, I can provide appropriate contact details - preferably not in a public forum.
On a separate note, I use this stuff for presentations from time to time. If anybody has a high quality version of the original stuff, I would very much like to get hold of it. I am happy to have copies professionally produced and suggest that fees just go to RAFBF. Please don't deluge with replies requesting copies again. If I get a sufficiently high quality version, I will post info on how to get copies.
I have made enquiries about the footage -it is available at commercial rates - 8 mins of the Phil collins stuff is going to be a minimum of £1500 plus VAT. The company claims to own copyright by virtue of owning the library, although I suspect that you could make a strong case that it ought to be Crown copyright. The music is a separate issue. I would suggest that if it is for private use only, don't ask questions you don't want to hear the answer to.
In summary, bottom line is that the Phil Collins stuff is available, but expensive. Making copies of it is not strictly legal, but unlikely to get you into trouble if only used privately, especially given that the company's claim to the footage is a little tenuous (taken by RAF aircrew from RAF jets). If somebody wants to go ahead with this, I can provide appropriate contact details - preferably not in a public forum.
On a separate note, I use this stuff for presentations from time to time. If anybody has a high quality version of the original stuff, I would very much like to get hold of it. I am happy to have copies professionally produced and suggest that fees just go to RAFBF. Please don't deluge with replies requesting copies again. If I get a sufficiently high quality version, I will post info on how to get copies.
Champagne anyone...?
....raising the titanic.....
Notwithstanding cal's expert comments above I have now finally got round to copying this on DVD (it's like pulling teeth round here sometimes 
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Started PMing interested folks but got bored of having to wait a minute between sending each one
Having read through the comments I should just say that although this is titled "The boys from Bahrain" I suspect it's a "sanitised" version of sorts. First half is set to some instrumental muzak as opposed to Phil collins. There are no CVRs, no clips of things going boom or such like. There are no voice tracks at all, just the muzak. The second half is the Whitesnake one. Again lots of jets hurtling about but again no CVR, anything going bang or people larking about. The thing ends with TV-am "credits".
It's possible that this isn't the vid as people remember it. That said, it is 13 minutes-odd of jets and RAF folk. If people still want a copy burning off then please PM me.
).Started PMing interested folks but got bored of having to wait a minute between sending each one
Having read through the comments I should just say that although this is titled "The boys from Bahrain" I suspect it's a "sanitised" version of sorts. First half is set to some instrumental muzak as opposed to Phil collins. There are no CVRs, no clips of things going boom or such like. There are no voice tracks at all, just the muzak. The second half is the Whitesnake one. Again lots of jets hurtling about but again no CVR, anything going bang or people larking about. The thing ends with TV-am "credits".
It's possible that this isn't the vid as people remember it. That said, it is 13 minutes-odd of jets and RAF folk. If people still want a copy burning off then please PM me.
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Snapshot...
Yours, complete with 'Buxton mineral spring water' banter sounds like the full ish... used to have a copy liberated from Marham until a mate taped the Rugby over it.... how I've always hated rugby!
Will pay whatever the rate is for a DVD of the full version complete with 'we're going to have a child together' banter etc. Tony Birtley / Mark Austin ("****ting myself") / Honolulu 1942 banter all top!
Yours, complete with 'Buxton mineral spring water' banter sounds like the full ish... used to have a copy liberated from Marham until a mate taped the Rugby over it.... how I've always hated rugby!
Will pay whatever the rate is for a DVD of the full version complete with 'we're going to have a child together' banter etc. Tony Birtley / Mark Austin ("****ting myself") / Honolulu 1942 banter all top!