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Old 27th Nov 2003, 23:15
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BEagle,

How about two from:

Furious
Courageous
Glorious
Eagle
Hermes
Indomitable
Implacable
Indefatigable
Formidable
Centaur (don't think this is in use)
Glory
Warrior
Theseus
Leviathan

All rather more inspiring than HMS Cunard's Finest and HMS Architecture...
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Old 27th Nov 2003, 23:30
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OK - Eagle and Hermes. Not Indescribable, Inexcusable or Indecipherable!

And anything but Brown Windsor!
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Old 28th Nov 2003, 00:26
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agreed with all this QE and PoW are inappropriate names for Carriers...Furious and Courgaeous or Glorious should be the names deffo.

But this is all as nothing as compared to the T45 names, they started off well with HMS Daring...but the next two are to be called Dragon and Defender...and it could well be that a Diana is in the pipeline....

They should have taken an A class prefix and ended up with Ajax, Achilles names redolent of stunning naval triumphs!
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Old 28th Nov 2003, 01:12
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Devil Whats in a Name

I reckon they should be:

HMS For Sale

and HMS For Sale 2

Because in a few years time .....
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Old 28th Nov 2003, 01:46
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HMS Dreadnought - now that's a name, and one which really seems to take the fight to the enemy? No, second thoughts, not PC, so what about HMS Compromise or HMS Giveway or HMS Donothing or HMS We Will Only Take You On If You Are Much Smaller And Weaker Than Us And We Have Invented Some Pathetic Pretext For Doing So? Yes, that should suit our present foreign policy.
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Old 28th Nov 2003, 02:39
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I must agree with all others on here; this choice of names is highly inappropriate and whiffs of someone brown-nosing for a knighthood.
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Old 28th Nov 2003, 05:58
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Rex,

The original Daring class destroyers included a Diana, so there is an acceptable precedent (not least since it would be commemorating the previous ship rather than the Queen of Landmines).

And it's probably a better choice than re-using one of the other names from the class: HMS Dainty....
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Old 28th Nov 2003, 06:18
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HMS Small and HMS SmallerStill
would be much better names.

There will be a change of HMG long before a single keel is built.

This project, just like Buff Hoon, will be a has been!!

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Old 28th Nov 2003, 17:02
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Have the Labour PC do gooders got something to do with this???
I'm surprised they didn't think of
HMS Nelson (gedit) Mandela
HMS Gene Robinson (Poof Bishop)
I also understand that french designs for these ships include bidets in the heads Is this true?

I note that all military minded ppruners agree on this point. Is there anybody reading this, with any influence, that can get this changed??? The names to go for:
HMS Furious
HMS Glorious

Now if we send ships with those names into action, then we mean business.

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Old 28th Nov 2003, 17:32
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Or HMS Bigot perhaps?
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Old 28th Nov 2003, 18:14
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Years ago as a young Pongo I went on board Centaur, she provided helicopter support for us in Aden, next time I saw her she looked very sad tied up in a Scottish Loch waiting for the breakers, circa1971/2.

I agree, stick to names that mean something and have a RN carrier tradition behind them.
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Old 28th Nov 2003, 19:28
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Assuming that the current CVS will be gone by then, how about "Ark Royal"?
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Old 28th Nov 2003, 21:23
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The original Daring class destroyers included a Diana, so there is an acceptable precedent (not least since it would be commemorating the previous ship rather than the Queen of Landmines).
Indeed, which makes me more all the more worried!

Dainty...there was also DECOY (on which my pa served) which I have never thought was a wise name for a ship! I also used to find DIDO (Leander) funny as a small boy!
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Old 28th Nov 2003, 22:36
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Scud-u-like is quite right, this is no time for bigotry or homophobia.
We need a name that reflects the sheer, raw, masculine fighting strength of the current Navy.
HMS Michael Barrymore it is then !
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Old 29th Nov 2003, 00:09
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RN aircraft carriers’ names in order of launch date. Some have been repeated eg Ark Royal. * = ship cancelled. Others were built but sold off before RN service to Canada, India etc.
So, plenty of precedent for non-naff names.

Furious
Vindictive
Argus
Eagle
Hermes
Courageous
Glorious
Ark Royal
Illustrious
Victorious
Formidable
Indomitable
Implacable
Indefatigable
Africa*
Gibraltar*
Malta*
New Zealand*
Unicorn
Colossus
Perseus
Glory
Pioneer
Ocean
Theseus
Triumph
Venerable
Vengence
Warrior
Hercules
Leviathan*
Magnificent
Majestic
Powerful
Terrible
Albion
Arrogant*
Bulwark
Centaur
Monmouth*
Polyphemus*
CVA.01*
Invincible

Escort carriers
Audacity
Pretoria Castle
Activity
Campania
Vindex
Nairana
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Old 29th Nov 2003, 00:50
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"Have the Labour PC do gooders got something to do with this???
I'm surprised they didn't think of
HMS Nelson (gedit) Mandela
HMS Gene Robinson (Poof Bishop)..."

Hmmm. I was as hostile to the new names as anyone until I read this bigoted far right nonsense. Perhaps to please those of your ilk HMS Enoch and HMS Oswald (Powell and Moseley, 'geddit'), would go down better.
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Old 29th Nov 2003, 01:12
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I do not think the majority of the Anglican Church would agree with you.
The PC nature of Nelson Mandela was flaunted in the BBC comedy Only Fools and Horses. I would not call the BBC far right, would you?
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Old 29th Nov 2003, 04:26
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<Dons anorak>

Leviathan wasn't cancelled - it was never fitted out/ completed. IIRC, it was moored somewhere for years, until, in 1968, its boilers were removed for installation in the 25 de Mayo prior to the vessel joining the Argentine navy. It was then scrapped.

IIRC, there were mutterings at some point in the late 50s/early 60s about finishing Leviathan and using her as a commando carrier, but this obviously never came to anything.



<removes anorak>
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Old 29th Nov 2003, 21:54
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Why on earth would "PC Labour do gooders" have anything to do with naming a RN ship after a member of the Royal Family?

The "Anglican Church" probably has a higher percentage of gay people among its staff than any other organisation (even the Royal Navy).

"Only Fools" first aired 23 years ago. The "Nelson Mandela House" gag was very much of the 80s. The show's humour (unlike that of some people) managed to move on.
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Old 29th Nov 2003, 22:09
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"Only Fools" first aired 23 years ago. The "Nelson Mandela House" gag was very much of the 80s. The show's humour (unlike that of some people) managed to move on.

I agree, when I was at Uni the student union (what an oxymoron) voted to change the "Nelson Mandela" Building into the "No Name" Building It was one of those 1990's generation X thingies
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