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Compiling research on Annington for a book. Looking for links, true stories (verifiable).etc.
Annington is not one company and I already have a mass of information on the various companies (public access material from Companies House and the Internet). I have an ongoing dispute with Annington and have discovered a lot of information that would make your hair curl - the MoD undersold the MQ estate by tens of millions (NAO report).
Annington flout laws - in relation to me they have broken at least 3 laws so far. In the West Country they are guided by a firm of solicitors called Henriques Griffiths who have advised them to break the law. The solicitor acting for them is Upert Anthony 'Tony' Woodburn. He is also a part-time judge. I am seeking information relating to him or his company.
In return you might ask yourselves how, of the 50000 shares issued in Annington Holdings, 12000 have been allocated to AVM Sandy Hunter. Annington Holdings owns the companies that own all of the MQs and develops all of the estates nationwide. How does a retired senior officer end up with ownership of nearly a quarter of the MQ estate?
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Compiling research on Annington for a book. Looking for links, true stories (verifiable).etc.
Annington is not one company and I already have a mass of information on the various companies (public access material from Companies House and the Internet). I have an ongoing dispute with Annington and have discovered a lot of information that would make your hair curl - the MoD undersold the MQ estate by tens of millions (NAO report).
Annington flout laws - in relation to me they have broken at least 3 laws so far. In the West Country they are guided by a firm of solicitors called Henriques Griffiths who have advised them to break the law. The solicitor acting for them is Upert Anthony 'Tony' Woodburn. He is also a part-time judge. I am seeking information relating to him or his company.
In return you might ask yourselves how, of the 50000 shares issued in Annington Holdings, 12000 have been allocated to AVM Sandy Hunter. Annington Holdings owns the companies that own all of the MQs and develops all of the estates nationwide. How does a retired senior officer end up with ownership of nearly a quarter of the MQ estate?
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They have been mentioned once or twice on these forums Just search for annington here :
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Sandy Hunter (62), a retired senior RAF officer, is active in the property field as deputy chairman of Annington Holdings PLC and chairman of Home Group Limited. He chairs the Society's Audit Committee.
From the Newcastle Building Society Homepage
Was known as Peter Pan in the late seventies because he always returned to base with a Practice Pan. When an ATC Controller said "Roger Peter Pan in acknowlaged" it was actually a REAL PAN! Cry Wolf, but then again I digress. He is no fool and will have covered any misdemenours (if there are any) very wisely.
'Fruit trees' Hunter of Binnsworth fame?
NnT - hope your patience and research pays off. I know how the ba$tards screwed you back then - hope they finally get nailed!
NnT - hope your patience and research pays off. I know how the ba$tards screwed you back then - hope they finally get nailed!
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MoD Press Release, Sale of Married Quarters Estate
Former Air Vice-Marshal Alexander Hunter, one-time Commander British Forces Cyprus, is also Chairman of the Home Housing Association (the second largest in the UK), and a director of Newcastle Building Society. He and his wife occupied numerous married quarters in the course of his Service career.
Ideally qualified to own 12000 shares, then.
MoD Press Release, Sale of Married Quarters Estate
Former Air Vice-Marshal Alexander Hunter, one-time Commander British Forces Cyprus, is also Chairman of the Home Housing Association (the second largest in the UK), and a director of Newcastle Building Society. He and his wife occupied numerous married quarters in the course of his Service career.
Ideally qualified to own 12000 shares, then.
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What about the Chairman? Sir Thomas Macpherson, a Scots Laird no less, with at least 6 current Chairman's posts under his belt, not including all the charitable trusts & military associations he's involved in.
2 of those Chairman positions are with Annington Holdings and Annington Trust (that well known military charity). He's got 12000 shares too. How much are Annington paying him?
BTW, how old is SuperScot? 83 years old, as of 4 October.
Some pension.
2 of those Chairman positions are with Annington Holdings and Annington Trust (that well known military charity). He's got 12000 shares too. How much are Annington paying him?
BTW, how old is SuperScot? 83 years old, as of 4 October.
Some pension.
BEags,
Steady on Beags. Let's not go too far. Before long people could be using unjustifiable and unfair terms like 'underhand', 'political', 'brown-nosing', 'second rate' and 'c***', as they may have done about other DPRs.
I can't see it myself and strictly limited myself to an observation purely relating to his performance as DPR. Otherwise I prefer 'nobility', 'integrity', 'high calibre', 'well liked', 'respected', 'highly efficient', 'popular' etc.......
Steady on Beags. Let's not go too far. Before long people could be using unjustifiable and unfair terms like 'underhand', 'political', 'brown-nosing', 'second rate' and 'c***', as they may have done about other DPRs.
I can't see it myself and strictly limited myself to an observation purely relating to his performance as DPR. Otherwise I prefer 'nobility', 'integrity', 'high calibre', 'well liked', 'respected', 'highly efficient', 'popular' etc.......
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Looking for more details on sale prices of properties thus far disposed of. Most of you will know that the properties were sold at a bargain basement price that equates to a fraction of the value at the time.
Any details on Lyneham, Catterick, Little Riss etc?
The difference in the purchase and sale price equates to the loss to the taxpayer. Many properties were refurbished at public expense and then sold off at a massive profit to Annington. It is a joke that Annington should buy the housing, lease it back and then, after it has been refurbished and handed back, make a massive mark up. There appears to be little benefit to the taxpayer and a large benefit to the Annington group.
Looking for more details on sale prices of properties thus far disposed of. Most of you will know that the properties were sold at a bargain basement price that equates to a fraction of the value at the time.
Any details on Lyneham, Catterick, Little Riss etc?
The difference in the purchase and sale price equates to the loss to the taxpayer. Many properties were refurbished at public expense and then sold off at a massive profit to Annington. It is a joke that Annington should buy the housing, lease it back and then, after it has been refurbished and handed back, make a massive mark up. There appears to be little benefit to the taxpayer and a large benefit to the Annington group.
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Anningtons or should we say DHE
Anningtons bought the whole of the MoD estate for, I think, £ 1.2 Billion an absolute snip, if you had the money. One of the ideas, when DHE was working badly was to buy it back, so they revalued the whole estate. Oops now its worth £3.6 Billion no option then. Also there is a part of the deal with Anningtons that says we have to give 10% of the estate back to them for sales. It all seems very dubious.
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Why should anyone be surprised at these people feathering their own nests? They have been doing it for years now.
Portillo was responible for the Annington fiasco in what was yet another short term fumble. But he was ultimately supported by our Senior Airships in the MOD.
Today the corruption within all levels of the MOD is plain to see.
I can quote many examples from the last 10 years alone!!
Portillo was responible for the Annington fiasco in what was yet another short term fumble. But he was ultimately supported by our Senior Airships in the MOD.
Today the corruption within all levels of the MOD is plain to see.
I can quote many examples from the last 10 years alone!!
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You were asking about recent cost of sales etc - High Wycombe, 3 bed semi (no garage) ex airman qtr, £168k for 25 yr lease - not sold freehold.
Similar prices asked for RAF Halton ex airman quarters (next to the old hospital) but these sold freehold. Ex Wg Cdr qtr, to you my boy, £396k. Not a bad mark-up for a £12k original price to Annington.
BTW - HQSTC currently has in excess of 100 (approx 112) personnel on ERA at the moment (avg £1500 per month) which is paid for by the RAF.
So if the RAF is coughing £160-170k a month because there aren't enough quarters, why are they being allowed to continue to sell qtrs at High Wycombe?
Similar prices asked for RAF Halton ex airman quarters (next to the old hospital) but these sold freehold. Ex Wg Cdr qtr, to you my boy, £396k. Not a bad mark-up for a £12k original price to Annington.
BTW - HQSTC currently has in excess of 100 (approx 112) personnel on ERA at the moment (avg £1500 per month) which is paid for by the RAF.
So if the RAF is coughing £160-170k a month because there aren't enough quarters, why are they being allowed to continue to sell qtrs at High Wycombe?
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Because Old Boy, those homes BELONG to Annington Homes. Well actually in truth Annington Homes is merely a front company for Japanese Banks - consortium thereof.
Portaloo sold the lot to them circa 1996. The deal was they were to be leased back to the MOD and a certain percentage would be sold every year. Even from the outset the maths meant that one day in the future the MOD would have no housing stock left!! That was brought up at the time but the MOD said they had plans and the time to sort it out!! Yeah right!!
The increase in house prices has meant the Japs want to cash in and who can blame them? So houses are being sold much faster than was envisaged and often for huge sums. Scampton in last nights echo - 2 bedroom mid terrace shoebox - £89K!! A 4 bedroom woodchip mansion like the one I occupied went for £125K at Scampton, I ask you!!!!!
The MOD will eventually bitch about it but they let it happen. I don't think they will get any sympathy from the treasury when they ask for a larger Defence budget to pay for an huge increase in ERA!!
Portaloo sold the lot to them circa 1996. The deal was they were to be leased back to the MOD and a certain percentage would be sold every year. Even from the outset the maths meant that one day in the future the MOD would have no housing stock left!! That was brought up at the time but the MOD said they had plans and the time to sort it out!! Yeah right!!
The increase in house prices has meant the Japs want to cash in and who can blame them? So houses are being sold much faster than was envisaged and often for huge sums. Scampton in last nights echo - 2 bedroom mid terrace shoebox - £89K!! A 4 bedroom woodchip mansion like the one I occupied went for £125K at Scampton, I ask you!!!!!
The MOD will eventually bitch about it but they let it happen. I don't think they will get any sympathy from the treasury when they ask for a larger Defence budget to pay for an huge increase in ERA!!
Ex AMQs at Halton are on the market for £250K according to the Bucks Herald (local paper). Understand that there are officers and SNCOs out on ERA in the local area because there are not enough quarters to go around. Future of Halton? Expanding under DTR, therefore more personnel, therefore more MQs required, therefore more out on ERA, therefore even smaller budgets for other vital works!!!
How come DHE/Annington aren't footing the bill for ERA?? What a cock-up of a PPP/PFI that one was!!!
How come DHE/Annington aren't footing the bill for ERA?? What a cock-up of a PPP/PFI that one was!!!
Now Roly, PPP/PFI cock-up? Surely the PPP/PFI is seen as A Good Thing by your illustrious hierarchy? Or is it just a way of keeping ever more civil serpents in cosy jobs.
Can you think of any other areas currently under the shadow of PPP/PFI? I'll bet there's one you know of....
Can you think of any other areas currently under the shadow of PPP/PFI? I'll bet there's one you know of....
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Why should the DHE or Annington foot the bill? This blunder was not a PFI!! It wasn't a cock up - it was planned this way!!
The DHE is merely an MOD agency set up to administer the lease and maintenance of the housing stock from Annington Homes. DHE therefore = the MOD!!
Annington Homes OWNS THE ENTIRE STOCK of former MQ's.
From day one it was written that each year a percentage of the estate would be sold off until eventually there would be none left.
The original target date for nil stock was 99 years, but the contract allowed Annington to sell more or less homes as they dictated. Currently they are selling more due to the higher house prices.
There was a big outcry at the time and all the problems now being encountered were dismissed by the MOD in their usual arrogant fashion.
In my opinion, Annington Homes and the Japanese banks are entirely blameless in this. They were the winning bidders in the last desperate throes of a dieing conservative government. Portlillo was the man responsible and the Tories needed hard cash to try and buy the election. In the event they got £2 billion for the sale and still lost the election. This all history now, but the long-term problems remain.
The MOD has to sort out this problem and find cuts from somewhere to take account of the increase in ERA over the coming years. Either that or build some new housing estates using its current budgets. I see from this morning’s teletext that super carriers are starting to have "Economy cuts" made to them! More defence cuts I say!!
I can tell you what the attitude in Civvie Street is to this:
Why do the Services need to have their own supply of homes any way?
No doubt over the coming years we shall hear more of this in the press, as ERA eats up more and more of the annual defence budget.
Bottom line - If you sell the family silver you can't have a silver service meal!!
Why should the DHE or Annington foot the bill? This blunder was not a PFI!! It wasn't a cock up - it was planned this way!!
The DHE is merely an MOD agency set up to administer the lease and maintenance of the housing stock from Annington Homes. DHE therefore = the MOD!!
Annington Homes OWNS THE ENTIRE STOCK of former MQ's.
From day one it was written that each year a percentage of the estate would be sold off until eventually there would be none left.
The original target date for nil stock was 99 years, but the contract allowed Annington to sell more or less homes as they dictated. Currently they are selling more due to the higher house prices.
There was a big outcry at the time and all the problems now being encountered were dismissed by the MOD in their usual arrogant fashion.
In my opinion, Annington Homes and the Japanese banks are entirely blameless in this. They were the winning bidders in the last desperate throes of a dieing conservative government. Portlillo was the man responsible and the Tories needed hard cash to try and buy the election. In the event they got £2 billion for the sale and still lost the election. This all history now, but the long-term problems remain.
The MOD has to sort out this problem and find cuts from somewhere to take account of the increase in ERA over the coming years. Either that or build some new housing estates using its current budgets. I see from this morning’s teletext that super carriers are starting to have "Economy cuts" made to them! More defence cuts I say!!
I can tell you what the attitude in Civvie Street is to this:
Why do the Services need to have their own supply of homes any way?
No doubt over the coming years we shall hear more of this in the press, as ERA eats up more and more of the annual defence budget.
Bottom line - If you sell the family silver you can't have a silver service meal!!
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Gorilla - that might be the attitude in some of Civvie St, but not all of it.
We need our own supply of homes because this is MORE than a job! Granted, the ethos, spirit etc is being eroded, but there is some of it out there.
If I am to move house every couple of yrs, going anywhere the military wants me to, usually at short notice, then if there is a stock of houses roughly the number of people going to work there it is easier. Although a single guy, I'd hope a family chap (or chapess) could go off to do their duty knowing there is an infrastructure there to look after those at home.
Regardless of your political alliances etc, this is seen, by many of those IN the military, as a rolling goat that really galls.
It doesn't matter who screwed up - it IS screwed up. Big style.
PS - do you own shares in Annington? Are you A Labour Spinner?
We need our own supply of homes because this is MORE than a job! Granted, the ethos, spirit etc is being eroded, but there is some of it out there.
If I am to move house every couple of yrs, going anywhere the military wants me to, usually at short notice, then if there is a stock of houses roughly the number of people going to work there it is easier. Although a single guy, I'd hope a family chap (or chapess) could go off to do their duty knowing there is an infrastructure there to look after those at home.
Regardless of your political alliances etc, this is seen, by many of those IN the military, as a rolling goat that really galls.
It doesn't matter who screwed up - it IS screwed up. Big style.
PS - do you own shares in Annington? Are you A Labour Spinner?