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Old 28th Oct 2003, 02:38
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Gary Astazou is so right about GFS, but what about the likes of "Stick" Kane?
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Old 28th Oct 2003, 16:59
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Neil Williams got a QCVSA for that incident - very unusual (I believe) for a civvy...
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But then, he wasn't a civvy. He was a Flt Lt RAF. He was also UK National aerobatics champion for something like 12 years. I first saw him at a display at Cranfield in 1966.
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Neil Williams' book's a treat, though nothing new to a mil pilot. Except you wouldn't be doing a lomkovac (or whatever the name is in a Tornado) I don't think...

Otherwise, that should have been one fun pilot to watch. Titbits that stick to mind from the book are his (alleged) ability to withstand +9 and -6g for meaningful amounts of time (without anti-g of course). The fact that you never get cold in an open cockpit (as your heartbeat goes 180 during aeros) the pint stays in place on the dashboard during a loop and...it took him two years plus, to perfect the slow roll...
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One wonders how many pints he spilled in the slow rolls!
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Old 29th Oct 2003, 15:15
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Sorry, civvy at the time of the award I meant. I think he was no longer Flt Lt by then.

Rare, but not unusual; I think there was a QCVSA for a "forced landing" in a biggish jet, but I can't remember and am too idle to Google it!

PS - by one of those amazing coincidences, just after posting the above, happened to read in a Concorde article that John Cochrane got a QCVSA in 1971 for his Concorde test flying...

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Old 30th Oct 2003, 05:48
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Like Neil Williams there are a couple of others who recovered when many others would have crashed.

One, a Master Pilot, flying an Anson had a failure of the undercarriage. One method was to use a hand pump and pump it down. For some reason this was not an option. So he feathered one engine and used the starter motor to rotate the two-bladed prop horizontal. He continued with a single engine approach. Just before touchdown he feathered the other. Again he motored the prop and executed a three-point landing on the protruding main wheels and tail wheel. The aircraft was undamaged.

The other was Sqn Ldr John Elias flying a Shackleton AEW in about 1980. As the aircraft got airborne and he pulled back on the control column the aircraft nosed over. He pushed, it climbed.

He then flew a circuit using the controls in the reverse sense and made a perfect landing saving the aircraft and denying the caterpillar club 6 or 7 new members. AFAIK he did not get an award.
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