retarded question about NCOs
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retarded question about NCOs
does anyone know what the difference is - apart from the obvious - between officers and senior NCOs? i only ask because i'm going to OASC and it comes up as an interview example question. please don't ridicule me, i'm learning, ok? cheers for any help!!
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Good question, the immediate response in money as a SNCO Aircrew you will get more initially but the pension and the prospect of Spec Aircrew is not as good (due to change soon!!!!!!) As far as the job goes as an SNCO I get to operate the kit as opposed to look at it, but at the end of the day BA needs pilots so go for that above any thing else. Best Of Luck
Champagne anyone...?
Baaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
Officers are suave, debonair individuals with a taste for fine wines and high living. We are all well read, were educated at vast expense at the finest private schools and all have swollen bank accounts that can more than accommodate our ceaseless desire for Krug and caviar.
SNCOs are frightful types who spend their lives swilling meths from bottles in brown paper bags and stealing the scraps that fall from the officers’ plates. They can often be found, of an evening, having fights with broken bottles outside the NAAFI.
Fortunately, as an officer we are allowed to execute up to 3 of these despicable beings a year. Hence the requirement to carry the trusty Service Revolver at all times. This allows for many quiet evenings of opera and visiting art gallerys down route - evenings that would be otherwise ruined by the drunken ramblings of one of these terrible individuals. Well worth the paperwork I think you’ll agree.
All the best at OASC.
If they do ask about the difference between officers and Snecs then reel off the above.
If they press you further, you can say that we get different hats.
PS. Anything about leadership is a red herring.
I’m off to thrash an airman for insubordination or something.
pip pip!
SNCOs are frightful types who spend their lives swilling meths from bottles in brown paper bags and stealing the scraps that fall from the officers’ plates. They can often be found, of an evening, having fights with broken bottles outside the NAAFI.
Fortunately, as an officer we are allowed to execute up to 3 of these despicable beings a year. Hence the requirement to carry the trusty Service Revolver at all times. This allows for many quiet evenings of opera and visiting art gallerys down route - evenings that would be otherwise ruined by the drunken ramblings of one of these terrible individuals. Well worth the paperwork I think you’ll agree.
All the best at OASC.
If they do ask about the difference between officers and Snecs then reel off the above.
If they press you further, you can say that we get different hats.
PS. Anything about leadership is a red herring.
I’m off to thrash an airman for insubordination or something.
pip pip!
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Commissioned Officer. You hold the Queen's commission. The scroll you receive after IOT tells you all about it.
NCO. You don't.
Red sauce, Brown sauce.
The Telegraph, The Sun
Black Lab, Bulldog
Rupert, Baldrick
Cranwell, Halton
Pilot or WSO, A N Other but Pilot or WSO
Say "Charge him", Charge him
Outrank them but know v little, be outranked but know a lot.
Commission, Common sense (someone's gotta bite on that one !)
The Creche, The OAP home
And not a hint of generalisation in the above !!!
NCO. You don't.
Red sauce, Brown sauce.
The Telegraph, The Sun
Black Lab, Bulldog
Rupert, Baldrick
Cranwell, Halton
Pilot or WSO, A N Other but Pilot or WSO
Say "Charge him", Charge him
Outrank them but know v little, be outranked but know a lot.
Commission, Common sense (someone's gotta bite on that one !)
The Creche, The OAP home
And not a hint of generalisation in the above !!!
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flyboy007,
got it in one old fella
wally
best you get a commission old chap cos, as has been alluded to here and as a SNCO and ALM I can confirm it, anything less and you will be eventually be fu@@ed up the hoop
Kpax......why not go for a commission instead of bleating
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
got it in one old fella
wally
best you get a commission old chap cos, as has been alluded to here and as a SNCO and ALM I can confirm it, anything less and you will be eventually be fu@@ed up the hoopKpax......why not go for a commission instead of bleating
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
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Stop Start
I thought because of the draw down in crew ratio's and the little blue book we all received (filed in B one N) Officers are only allowed to shoot 1 per year, 1 flesh wound and 1 stern look.
Difference between Officers and SNCO’s
The main job of a SNCO is to do all the work
Officers main job is to come up with stupid ideas, which the SNCO has to correct before the Officer can take all the credit
Can any one explain about Co-pilots?
A bunch of very fine, intelligent and professional individuals.
BUT
Do you have do go on a special course to have your common sense, and ability to turn up to work on time removed?????
SIR FOR YOUR OWN SAFTY PUT THE FORK DOWN; YOU KNOW YOU ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO USE SPOONS.
AND PLEASE STOP SLAMMING THAT IN THE FRIDGE!
All spelling mistakes are because I can't spell
I thought because of the draw down in crew ratio's and the little blue book we all received (filed in B one N) Officers are only allowed to shoot 1 per year, 1 flesh wound and 1 stern look.
Difference between Officers and SNCO’s
The main job of a SNCO is to do all the work
Officers main job is to come up with stupid ideas, which the SNCO has to correct before the Officer can take all the credit
Can any one explain about Co-pilots?
A bunch of very fine, intelligent and professional individuals.
BUT
Do you have do go on a special course to have your common sense, and ability to turn up to work on time removed?????
SIR FOR YOUR OWN SAFTY PUT THE FORK DOWN; YOU KNOW YOU ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO USE SPOONS.
AND PLEASE STOP SLAMMING THAT IN THE FRIDGE!
All spelling mistakes are because I can't spell
Red sauce? Good grief - are there no standards anymore? I've even seen some 'officers' chewing gum.
I used to use the 'spring/damper' analogy. Young thrusters or Flt Cdrs with a nose for their boss's bottom would prance about on springs bouncing from one limit stop to the other. Whereas the wisdom of experienced NCA would dampen the extremes of their behaviour to a sensible level.
A well tuned system results when the spring/damper ratio is correctly identified! Get it wrong, hit resonance and it will diverge to destruction, however.
Not so long ago the NCA would have slightly more spare time than the career-pushing JOs with their Officer I/C Barrack Block 59 secondary duties. Hence several Air Engineers used that time to learn to fly, worked up to CPL/IR and FI rating, then left the mob and went to grateful airlines. So they're now either experienced and knowledgeable airline FOs - or Captains in at least one case. Whereas those same JOs are probably now driving a desk and answering phones or doing something equally exciting
Stoppers - any news about when you and your glider chums will be off to fly the C-17
I used to use the 'spring/damper' analogy. Young thrusters or Flt Cdrs with a nose for their boss's bottom would prance about on springs bouncing from one limit stop to the other. Whereas the wisdom of experienced NCA would dampen the extremes of their behaviour to a sensible level.
A well tuned system results when the spring/damper ratio is correctly identified! Get it wrong, hit resonance and it will diverge to destruction, however.
Not so long ago the NCA would have slightly more spare time than the career-pushing JOs with their Officer I/C Barrack Block 59 secondary duties. Hence several Air Engineers used that time to learn to fly, worked up to CPL/IR and FI rating, then left the mob and went to grateful airlines. So they're now either experienced and knowledgeable airline FOs - or Captains in at least one case. Whereas those same JOs are probably now driving a desk and answering phones or doing something equally exciting
Stoppers - any news about when you and your glider chums will be off to fly the C-17
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Beagle briefly mentioned:
"Flt Cdrs with a nose for their boss's bottom......."
Twas not long ago when the 2ic & Flt Cdrs on a certain SH Sqn were refered to by the real workers as:
Brown Nose
Red Nose
Fock Nose
Who Nose?
Red nose liked the occasional tipple and it showed, apparently! Brown nose sucessfully climbed the career ladder all the way to Air 2000! Fock nose has disappeared into a senior officer bunker and with any luck will stay there.
Twas not long ago when the 2ic & Flt Cdrs on a certain SH Sqn were refered to by the real workers as:
Brown Nose
Red Nose
Fock Nose
Who Nose?
Red nose liked the occasional tipple and it showed, apparently! Brown nose sucessfully climbed the career ladder all the way to Air 2000! Fock nose has disappeared into a senior officer bunker and with any luck will stay there.
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Spot,
Consider your self lucky to have never had the misfortune to work for BIGNOSE. Crewman Ldr at Laarparts at the end and deservedly nicknamed "thrush" Very irritating
I think I know who rednose is and his nose was very red when I last met him in Belize 10 years ago, but as to the others I am too long gone from the SH world thankfully. Keep your head dowm matey
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
Consider your self lucky to have never had the misfortune to work for BIGNOSE. Crewman Ldr at Laarparts at the end and deservedly nicknamed "thrush" Very irritating
I think I know who rednose is and his nose was very red when I last met him in Belize 10 years ago, but as to the others I am too long gone from the SH world thankfully. Keep your head dowm matey
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
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Broadsheet/Tabloid
Powerful sports car/Public transport
Italian suit/T-shirt from K Mart
Private education/Didn't complete government education
4-5 star, own suite/Tin City, on base, four to a room
Mistress/Mortgage
Stable of thoroughbreds/Greyhounds Fri night
Returning salutes/Saluting
Private cinema/Telly at Totalisor to watch greyhounds
Mess/Boozer
James Squire/Victoria Bitter
Chalet in the snow/Backpackers
NCO walks past Officer. NCO salutes, Officer doesn't. NCO says "I saluted you, sir!" Officer replies "And so you should".
Powerful sports car/Public transport
Italian suit/T-shirt from K Mart
Private education/Didn't complete government education
4-5 star, own suite/Tin City, on base, four to a room
Mistress/Mortgage
Stable of thoroughbreds/Greyhounds Fri night
Returning salutes/Saluting
Private cinema/Telly at Totalisor to watch greyhounds
Mess/Boozer
James Squire/Victoria Bitter
Chalet in the snow/Backpackers
NCO walks past Officer. NCO salutes, Officer doesn't. NCO says "I saluted you, sir!" Officer replies "And so you should".
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NO! SNCO states "With all due respect Sir!"
and any officer worth an iota of respect knows EXACTLY what he really means
Interesting answers coming from you commisioned boys, as I do earn 50k, do read the Telegraph, own an independent business that also earns 50k, Take notice of the FT, without depending on it, am very old school and know that it is the Queen getting the salute even if she elects to have a spotty sprog as her area reps.
Spot
New ordered, awaiting delivery. Those V6 engines sound so nice compared to wodneys Ford Capri
and any officer worth an iota of respect knows EXACTLY what he really means
Interesting answers coming from you commisioned boys, as I do earn 50k, do read the Telegraph, own an independent business that also earns 50k, Take notice of the FT, without depending on it, am very old school and know that it is the Queen getting the salute even if she elects to have a spotty sprog as her area reps.
Spot
New
ordered, awaiting delivery. Those V6 engines sound so nice compared to wodneys Ford Capri
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Good to see Spot4 nibbling at that bait there
Do you think we actually read The Telegraph, went to public school etc ?
What it all boils down to is how hard each person worked at school . . . . . . .
Do you think we actually read The Telegraph, went to public school etc ?
What it all boils down to is how hard each person worked at school . . . . . . .
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SNCO's V OFFICER TYPES!
This is hilarious...my stomach 'aint hurt this much since the hernia operation.
I'm fine now, though!
50K a year...we won't need money where we're going...no need to even book a ticket 'cause this journey is for free...special offer...one-way only...see you there!
...are you sure this is just tobacco?
I'm fine now, though!
50K a year...we won't need money where we're going...no need to even book a ticket 'cause this journey is for free...special offer...one-way only...see you there!
...are you sure this is just tobacco?
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SS
You great big stuffy public school snobby git.
I dare you to read that post out loud in the sargeants mess.
In fact I'm going to get my mate to invite you to the mess at the Citadel Plymouth, home of 29Cdo. I'll pay your expenses, it'll be well worth it.
FEBA
You great big stuffy public school snobby git.
I dare you to read that post out loud in the sargeants mess.
In fact I'm going to get my mate to invite you to the mess at the Citadel Plymouth, home of 29Cdo. I'll pay your expenses, it'll be well worth it.
FEBA
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FEBA...do you really live on Tracy Island?
...can you indulge there?
PS...can I come to down Plymouth and watch...twill be a giggle!
This is hilarious...my stomach 'aint hurt this much since the hernia operation.
I'm fine now, though!
50K a year...we won't need money where we're going...no need to even book a ticket 'cause this journey is for free...special offer...one-way only...see you there!
...are you sure this is just tobacco?
...can you indulge there?
PS...can I come to down Plymouth and watch...twill be a giggle!
This is hilarious...my stomach 'aint hurt this much since the hernia operation.
I'm fine now, though!
50K a year...we won't need money where we're going...no need to even book a ticket 'cause this journey is for free...special offer...one-way only...see you there!
...are you sure this is just tobacco?
Champagne anyone...?
Ah fabulous!
't would appear a couple of the blighters have been off the sauce long enough to be able to focus on a computer screen!
FEBA - indebted to you for kind offer to visit Plymouth. Sadly I shan't be able to take you up on it as Plymouth is a) full of sailors and b) simply frightful.
As for reading out my original post in the Sgts' Mess I again feel unable to do this at present as I have yet to complete the full course of Anthrax vaccinations. I also find the smell of chip fat rather unpleasant.
Spot4 - delighted to see you're doing so well.
One can indeed wrap a lot more cod and chips in the FT - or so I'm led to believe.
Keep up the good work chaps!
't would appear a couple of the blighters have been off the sauce long enough to be able to focus on a computer screen!
FEBA - indebted to you for kind offer to visit Plymouth. Sadly I shan't be able to take you up on it as Plymouth is a) full of sailors and b) simply frightful.
As for reading out my original post in the Sgts' Mess I again feel unable to do this at present as I have yet to complete the full course of Anthrax vaccinations. I also find the smell of chip fat rather unpleasant.
Spot4 - delighted to see you're doing so well.
One can indeed wrap a lot more cod and chips in the FT - or so I'm led to believe.
Keep up the good work chaps!
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