MTQatar,

Thanks, quite impressive setups some of these schools have. The best for us would be a french shool to begin with where english classes would be taught as well, so my kids would have a good exposure to english. Would probably switch them to full english classes the next year. Anything on french schools as well?
Thanks in advance. Very much appreciated.

Nooman,
I know that what you're saying is pretty much bang on, no arguments there. I will have a couple of months ahead of me to make a final decision on the rest of the family, but I intend to go and see by myself and get my own feelings about QR and Doha itself.

Like you said money is definately not good, specially with kids going to a decent school. Me thinks too many of their pilots are from countries where they can return to and have a happy retirement with what QR is offering, so that does'nt help. When this pilot pool has dried up (if it ever does), and airplanes on ground with no pilots to fly them, then.............

I still intend to go, with a mind set to be around for awhile. I'll post again in a few weeks, let you all know.
Thanks for the warnings,
Cheers!!!

MTQatar,

I found the American and French School sites. Thanks anyway.
Cheers!!!

Ready
I assumed you were British. There is a French school here which has a good reputation. Thier telephone number is: (+974) 4835800

You have good attitude towards this, just go with an open mind and see everything first hand. If you find QR not suitable as an employer then take the decision not take up the offer, just don't let the posters here influence your decision so you don't regret it in the future.

And about the housing, there are plenty of new compunds that have very good housing and excellent facilities for your family i.e. swimming pools, tennis courts playing grounds and Doha itself is very safe, and clean so you won't experience any problems. The best way to check out the housing is too see it first hand when you are in Doha.

BTW if you need any more help feel free to ask.

Regards,
MTQatar

The Saint Simon.
For what it is worth, I was told.... 10 highly experienced Australian, ex Ansett, Airbus pilots tracked up to Qatar for the interview and only one pilot was offered a job.
This he refused, do not ask me why.
If unemployed and knowing Doha I would have taken it.
Also told a chief pilot at Qatar Airline resigned over these interviews and wrote to the pilots personaly apologiseing to them for their poor treatment during their visit.
You will have to check the truth of this out for yourself.

Scanscan,

Yes,most of which you say is true.Of the ten I think four got jobs and the rest were treated poorly.

Something was amiss at Qatar.Technical exams for candidates one day but the next day "we forgot to bring them".On interview candidates hounded on A320 systems questions,giving a correct answer,only to be to told they were wrong.Smart guys we were,next day candidates went into the interview and gave the incorrect technical answer with success.

Director of Flt Ops did call some unsuccessful candidates stating they were caught up in an internal political war.He did resign too.It was mentioned that if you appeared on his recommended interview list you were doomed.

I know of a few people knocking back the job.Some would prefer unemployment.One A320 trainer was particular incensed by the groping of his fiance by locals-"I Dream Of Genie" looks.

Some successful candidates rueing their decision to accept,as sort after A320 operators now interviewing-Dragon etc.

well obviously nobody can be forced to work in such bad conditions. but then if the conditions were really so bad then why would people still be accepting job positions with QR. Since people things have supposedly been bad for so long the airline should have fallen flat byy now with lack of quality pilots. Its all so easy to claim that an f/o at emirates makes what a checker at qr does. but then if you were so qualified to get an f/o position with emirates you wouldnt be looking at QR would you? like ive said in previous postings, its an airline thast growing and will eventually learn from its mistakes. Not the best place but not the worst either. I would totally agree with MT Qatar. One should form his own opinions and not tow lines drawn by others

MTQatar
I am glad that you have not left us. Your right I was being a little bit sarcastic but I think you are being a little bit niave if you think that there is no secret police in Qatar. Every country in the world has it's secret police, I know quite a few of the one's in Bahrain and these boys (and girls) work hand in hand with their colleagues in most of the Gulf countries including Qatar. (when it suits them) :cool:

I do agree that Qatar is politically stable although whether the most stable in the Gulf I am not qualified to say as the political situation in Oman and Kuwait are relatively unknown to me. It is certainly more stable than Bahrain though. :eek:

Qatar is also booming, that I can see for myself. (Nice Golf Course :D )
I have lots of mates who live there and rave about what a great place it is too live. I have been in Bahrain for over 10 years now and I love it but I am keeping an eye on Qatar. :cool: I think that in a couple of years time it will have overtaken Bahrain and I will probably want to move there then.

I do not know anyone who works for Qatar Airways but I do have a load of mates who work for Qatar Petroleum and they all say that they are well treated and allowed to do their jobs and live their lives with no political interferance.
:) :)

A little off the subject but in reference to Qatar secret police.I think the US Embassy website may have reference to minor human rights violations involving suspected coup organisers.Interesting non-recomendation of service travel with Gulf Air too.

MT Qatar,admirable to parochialy defend the honour of your airline,but I hope you realise the animosity and antipathy arises from professionals treated like slaves from the sub-continent.

1. Of course there are secret police, but they do not normally bother expats, provided they do not involve themselves in political activities or criticise the Al Thanis. They do however try to trick the odd expat into selling booze to a local, by pretending to be in the market for same, so be careful of that one.

2. The Qataris are very hospitable people, and some very decent gentlemen of that nationality are QR pilots and managers. However, they do not, and are not allowed to, call the shots. PD is not pure Qatari and does indeed run the airline like a personal fiefdom (tautology?).

3 It is true that there are many pilots who are not from a First World background who are happy with the terms and conditions, and, for the avoidance of all doubt, are professionally extremely competent almost without exception.

4. If you can keep out of trouble, it is not a bad place to be, especially if you are of mature years and don't have kids to educate. The problem is keeping out of trouble. PD owns the goal posts and they are not fixed in any particular place!!!

5. It is with some sadness that I say that QR is not the place to go, unless you don't really need the job financially and want something to pass the time (and can't get job with EQ and GF!!).

There is no such thing as secret police in Qatar. I think Sirwa69 and MT Edelstone56 don't know the definition of secret police, Secret police are like the Gestapo in Nazi Germany. Secret Police can arrest people even if the person arrested doesn't break the law that certainly doesn't happen in Qatar.

In Qatar we have the normal police with it's many branches (Traffic, Emergency, Rescue, Drug/Alcohol unit, Diplomatic police, Guard Police etc....) and we also have the "Mukhabarat" who are the equivelant of the FBI, and the FBI are no secret police.

The last "political" disturbance happened in Nov. 2000 when 4 Israeli's from the Mossad who carried Canadian and Italian (IIRC) passports. They attempted to assasinate some of the Hamas leader who had taken political assylum in Qatar. They were caught and extradited to Israel.

Oh yes you caught me, every month when the moon is full, me and my fellow qataris lease a 747 with "slave configuration" and head to India. My friends preffer to catch the indians with traps or large nets but I prefer using a gun with tranquilizers, good fun ;) . We usually round up about a 1000 indians everytime and beleive it or not the slave configured 747 can fit them all. When we arrive in Doha we brand each and everyone of the indians and give them a number. After that we shackle them all and march them down the corniche all the way to the north of Doha where we store them in a warehouse. Where they are available for sale. Even if we don't sell them thier upkeep is cheap because all we feed them are scraps from the landfill.
I believe QR took 10 or 11 last time to see if the CF-6s in the new A330-00 could widthstand ingesting a human. Boy do GE know how to make engines.

Poor old Akbar, he was enslaved because he is partly from the sub-continent. As you see his mother is from India and his father is Qatari (of Irani origin).

Last note, if you don't like Qatar Airways, stop complaining and don't work them. They don't have grounded aircraft because of lack of pilots.

Quote from Qatar Airways website
Regards,
MTQatar

What are QR paying?
 

What are QR offering a new F/O nowadays? In the past the package was quite good but surely it can't of slipped down so quickly.

Anyone care to share any info.

Cheers

MG

MT Qatar,

Parochial drivel,but your revelation prospective expatriates to your country will share the streets with Hamas terrorists a revelation.

Slave trade analogies subjective.

Good day.

MTQatar it's nice to see you back on the forum, I had seen some of your posts had been erased and was worried that perhaps you were unable to post anymore on the subject.

Before you repeat the word "drivel", please tell me what qualifies you to comment on my knowledge of my own country. I certainly will never contest anything you say about your country because you know it better than me.

And about the slave analogies, I was just beign sarcastic on how bad you make Qatar look. Let's say you see a big bowl of 100 strawberrys, they all look delicious and smell very good, but one of them looks rotten and stinks. You immediatly change your opinion about the whole bunch of strawberrys even though they all look delicious but just because of one. You eventually get disguisted and because of that one rotten strawberry and you then tell the people around you not to get eat any of the strawberrys. I hope you understand the analogy, its the best way to explain.

Regards,
MTQatar

This thread has served it's purpose. A gentle word of warning - keep politics out of this forum; we are of too many cultures and beliefs to become involved in that quagmire.

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