Staff travel with SV is quite expensive, sure ACM is free but at the risk of being abused and mistreated by some supervisors. My experience is to travel using ZED, you can enjoy a glass of wine on business class and being treated with some decency and respect.... And don't need to dress like a clown.

My experience is traveling First Class on a term pass :)

Term Pass is GOLD it almost makes up for all the years put in. I gave up on ACM the last few years before term pass kicked in.

ACM v/s Term pass.
Apples and Oranges

I second. For new joiners yeah. Not for ten year old veterans.

@ Mutt
 

After 5 years Qatar im now in Saudi , and I like it more.
Guess were from the same Homeland,where Merkel is the Boss.
Cheers

I bet, QR has its own share of scary stories. We have a lot of ex qataris.

Nope not me, I have my licenses and I'm sitting in a seat for which I'm qualified, unlike some of my colleagues from Merkel land, (if rumors are to be believed.)

If rumors are to be believed not just Germans.... some captains from south of the Equator and from across the Atlantic are in the wrong seat.

Sorry, not specific to Saudia, ....but anyone have any insight into a VVIP Riyadh based A320 which is currently recruiting.
Thanks.

Doesn't that go against the concept of having an airline that doesn't need government subsidies? A lot of the loss making routes are fare controlled by government rules.

So why aren't these routes working for Saudi Gulf? If rumours are to be believed they are suffering.

Presently domestic flights become really "fare controlled" by competitors, not by government.
Compare base fares for some main domestic routes, e.g. JED-RUH for any date after Hajj:
Nesma - 190SR ~42EUR which can cover an A320 seat cost for 1:45 hour flight (I compare with W6 or FR numbers)
Nasair - 250SR
Gulfair - 306SR
Saudia - 339SR

Anyway, what then will happen with Saudia's ridiculous high cost base which will remain in main company?

Vamy
Are you sure you got the right bloke???

Vamy,

1) Definitely correct, cost base is ridiculous.

2) As for the other guy, this is more than "skeletons in the closet", a DUI, job termination or a violation. This particular guy is accused of spending time in a Sri Lankan prison for claiming Skipper qualifications when he never actually possessed them. It is well documented on the internet with a search of the name.

Now the crew hotels are being requested for a new contract without uniform laundry and breakfast to lower costs!

That did not take long to end up on PPRUNE, just saw the emails a few hours ago, YYZ and IAD is official, no more breakfast and laundry.

This particular guy is accused of spending time in a Sri Lankan prison for claiming Skipper qualifications when he never actually possessed them. It is well documented on the internet with a search of the name.

hahahaha I remember him so very well....and yes, a recent search produced a very interesting article about this fellow in the Chicago Tribune 1994

This these extras have any effect on hotel cost or were they "thrown in" by the hotels to get the contracts, as were suites at one stage.