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forum newbie 29th March 2009 17:49

I am curious to know what the notice requirement for a class date do most of you need. I told emirates i need two months.

aapa 29th March 2009 22:34

hey folks
 
eagerly waiting too inter. may my company requires 3 months - u. k low cost

klipper11 30th March 2009 04:04

forgive my ignorance, what does shortlisted really mean? I have been short listed with a few other opportunities, but what does it mean for EK.

fatbus 30th March 2009 04:49

it means EK finds you acceptable,after that there is grading involved

klipper11 30th March 2009 14:32

thanks for the information, I will wait and see.

kkeehh31 1st April 2009 16:18

Hi

I saw this in Flight International too. http://www.pprune.org/middle-east/36...ers-today.html
Myself is still waiting for a date.

mikehagen 2nd April 2009 06:02

As I approach a year after my interview, it's frustrating not to have anyone inside EK to contact and find out our actual pool status. All HR specialists seem gone as their emails reject any contact attempt.

Even the email of K. Ferguson, the Recruitment Manager who succeded D. Rawson does not seem to work anymore. It's almost like the whole Pilot Recruitment Department is gone...

I wonder what's really going on. Any ideas, insiders? :bored:

Mr.Shaft 3rd April 2009 11:52

EK situation is getting ugly.......is it true their asking voluntary leave absence from the cabin crew? What's next the pilot's? I'm in the pilot pool and was told to expect an update April-June along with my fellow poolers. I wish they would tell us exactly their plan.......it's a little frustrating to say the least.

forum newbie 3rd April 2009 23:58

I am frustrated with EK and i have not even started ground school. The lack of communication is dumbfounding and it says heaps about the hr department and their lack of insight. I wish they would tell us if we are going to start ground school or not, but please do not give us this false dream of ever working for EK.

I told ek i need 2 months notice due to my current airline so my swim legs are getting tired. Anyone know if that tall eastern european girl is still working, i dont have her contact information but will attempt to call her next week. I also tried ferguson and she seems out of the office or maybe she was cut due to the budget cuts.

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Kenny 4th April 2009 03:53

Gents,

I know we're feeling frustrated but I'm willing to bet things are changing on a weekly basis. So their ability to keep us advised about what is in the pipeline for the poolies is limited.

And just to finish this post on a really good note, I just heard from a mate of mine that the number right now, is 50 required for the 09/10 fiscal year. So about half the poolies.

kingpost 4th April 2009 09:40

Unfortunately the requirement will come after all poolies have been treading water for over a year, they'll then have to re-apply!

Bavarian 4th April 2009 14:03


Anyone know if that tall eastern european girl is still working, i dont have her contact information but will attempt to call her next week.
Forum Newbie, I believe you are referring to Aneta. . Good luck and let us know if and what you might find out.

Obbie 5th April 2009 16:21

Guys....don't keep bothering them

When they are ready, they will start the ball rolling.

If you make a pest of yourself......it might not be a good thing for you.

Know what I mean ;)

Padawan Learner 8th April 2009 08:34

Hi all,

a new update letter has been sent to the guys in the pool. It states tentative courses have been planned for July, August and September. It also states that not all in the pool will receive start dates and some will have to re-apply. Lots of other info in the letter too.. Check your mail boxes and keep your fingers crossed.. Good luck!

kashima 9th April 2009 18:32

April Update
 
Any feedback or thoughts on the April update received from HR.
Any thoughts on new accommodation claus.

brewman187 9th April 2009 20:13

Hello to all the poolies, I received the same email from HR. Not the best of news, but at least it's an update. Not sure who will be selected for course dates, though. The email said 2 criteria will be used right; currency, or when you last flew, and also how well you did in the interview. Is that what everyone else gets out of it? I guess we won't hear anything until around May at the earliest of who will be offered courses. Keep your chins up, I know it's difficult. Good luck to all in the pool.

kashima 10th April 2009 00:55

application expiration
 
Does anyone know if the expiration date is from the day your application was submitted online or your interview date? or some other date?:ooh:

brewman187 10th April 2009 01:16

kashima, I believe the currency period begins with your interview dates, at least thats what I was told by HR at some point, but like anything else, don't hold me to that. Hope this helps.

Kenny 10th April 2009 01:19

The original "thumbs up" email said you had 12 months from the successful completion of the selection process.

Now whether that's the interview date or the email date is anyone's guess. But, considering that there were some huge differences in how long after your interview it took to get the email, I'm going with interview date.

Also, in addition to brewman's post above, although it wasn't specifically stated but merely alluded to, they are going to be looking at the type of time in deciding where you fall in the list. ie, Boeing, Airbus, CRJ, etc.

fatbus 10th April 2009 03:34

This time last year EK was desperate for pilots,running roads shows everywhere and the pool was basically dry. They are now using this opportunity to revamp the pool with more experienced pilots. Very unfortunate for some but the market is coughing up alot of experience at the moment

forum newbie 10th April 2009 22:01

Kenny,

How do you know how they are rating the type of experience. From what i read, people will be judged on an individual basis based on currency and how well one did in the interview. In my group, i was the only one hired and i had erj experience and others had boeing, airbus times.

I think it will be sad if emirates does not look at the individuals and instead takes a boeing/ airbus guy over someone who did better in the interview. There are many successful crj/erj pilots at Emirates. Also, should Emirates take a boeing pilot who is not current over a crj/ erj pilot?

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Kenny 11th April 2009 00:41

FN,

A friend of mine has a contact in HR.

kingpost 11th April 2009 06:40

Forum Newbie

There are also many unsuccessful ERJ/CJ pilots at EK, it all depends on the individual's attitude.

I think be ready for the next round of interviews

EGGW 11th April 2009 07:24

Krugerflap is a taking a break from Pprune, so no more replies to his rants please...

EGGW

Saltaire 11th April 2009 17:41

Well done moderator, thank you

Mr.Shaft 12th April 2009 16:50

From the latest HR update, are we to conclude that poolers interviewed Jan-April '08 of last year are let to expire. If that's the case, IMO the pool is cut by half or maybe more. That blows!!!!!

Kep Ten Jim 12th April 2009 22:25

Mr Shaft

What do you mean by: "are we to conclude that poolers interviewed Jan-April '08 of last year are let to expire"

"are let to expire"?????

Do you not read over your post before putting it on line?

Kenny 13th April 2009 00:19

Shaft,

A couple of things...

Firstly, and I don't know that they have but if EK has allowed the Jan-Apr poolies expire and that halves the pool. Then that might make sense to them as I've heard the pool has been around 100 deep and only 50-56 are needed. Possibly more, possibly less per the email.

Secondly, I'd be curious to know what the experience level and background is of those that were interviewed in JAN '08 and subsequently put in the pool. The guys I know that were interviewed in Jan, were on courses in April.

forum newbie 13th April 2009 05:57

Kenny,

Another point is that it will be curious to know what the notification period one needs. I know that my company requires 2 month notice and i dont want to burn any bridges to attain a job. I know that some european carriers require 3 months notice and others require a longer notice period. If EK does the hiring on a month to month basis, then i am sure that many poolies will be eliminated just by that fact alone.

Another scenario is with the economic crisis, does it really make sense to move to the bottom of a seniority list. I just spoke to the family, and i cant take the risk of starting over. I really wanted EK but the safety and well being of my family comes first. Additionally, i just spoke to a new hire at EK and he told me that it is not what he imagined.

A famous captain once told me that once you are an expat, you are always an expat. I dont know if i can put my wife through my pursuit of an ideal job.

I think EK is a great company, but my family's well being is more important.

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gotoindia 13th April 2009 06:00

Hiring Update
 
Gents,

EK is hiring. Since Feb 1st. there have been 20 new hires. All of whom are graduates of the National Cadet Pilot Programme. The youngest 777 First Officer is 20 years old. All are citizens of the UAE. Ask your pals at EK to confirm this for you.

At 6 or so per month, the Cadet Pilot Programme can meet 100% of the staffing needs for 2009.

So when your e-mail says we'll have a class in June, Sept, or Dec, its true, but unless you're a Cadet, you won't be invited, it makes no difference if you're from a B744 or a CRJ2.

Maybe next year, but not anytime soon, this is the reality, so make your plans accordingly.
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Emirates | About Emirates | News | Emirates Doubles Number of UAE National Cadet Pilot Graduates

Check this press to verify the above information.

Oblaaspop 13th April 2009 08:16

Gotoindia,

You are spouting crap my friend.

You run the risk of thoroughly upsetting lots of peoples day's/weeks with the nonsense you are spreading!

If you don't have any FACTS, then don't bother posting!

To the guys in the pool (peps who have already passed the selection), I know its hard, but please try not to listen to these self centered fools who's sole aim is to ruin your day!

You will hear from EK soon...... Just be positive

Fubaliera 13th April 2009 11:13

If EK was the company I thought it was.
1. They would have given poolies a seniority number
2.If no spots avail at least offer as a alternate Fly Dubai.
If they had made a decision to pass you, they should stand by it. Not say well now theres more euro and aussies avail so thank you but no thanks.
3. And if they actually start calling guys off the pool whats this 30 day notice. That is a sign of lack of planning, disorganization and guessing.

whossorrynow 13th April 2009 11:42


You will hear from EK soon...... Just be positive
Reading this gives me that same sinking feeling I had when I saw Clarks ''we are unstoppable" message last year.



If EK was the company I thought it was.
Which PPRuNe have you been reading?



That is a sign of lack of planning, disorganization and guessing.
How perceptive.

forum newbie 13th April 2009 17:47

It is kind of disappointing hearing that you are qualified, but not as qualified as others who have boeing time. We have hired regional guys but they do not make as good as pilots as boeing/ airbus guys even though we have cadets who have no experience.

As i said earlier, i am no longer interested but to the guys in the pool...i hope you are treated fairly. This whole experience could have been a more positive experience with just a few better deciisions.

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Pool Paddler 21st April 2009 02:56

Any news?????? :sad:

Any body...... ????

IDbackcountry 21st April 2009 16:06

I agree with fb. Watching on the sideline what's going on has decreased my interest and making it easier to make a decision. If you can't carve out a life with the new work rules, what's the point?

Bavarian 22nd April 2009 04:55

Flightglobal article: Emirates' hiring outlook
 
Hmmm...

Middle East supplement: Emirates back in the hunt soon

Pool Paddler 22nd April 2009 18:07

Thanks Bavarian!

Still no offer, running out of time for a July start.............. need to be fair to present CO....

Think I should stop paddling , just float...... :hmm:

Hope we don't float up the creek without a paddle..:confused:

PP

Pool Paddler 23rd April 2009 05:45

SH1T the same all over!

Question now is, OLD Bucket or NEW Bucket :confused:

PM's welcome.

PP

freddi16 23rd April 2009 08:54

ek
 
hi guys anybody know how to update the application form for fo? they've changed the web site(emirates groups carrer).

many thanks


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