Guys, 4HP got this discussion closed in another thread. Please don't start here. Exchange phonenumbers and start texting eachother, looks like a good idea... (at least you master that spelling)

4HP, if these people go on, couldn't you just ban them? Their a nuisance..

MR8

I got over it man. relax :)

Hi Check Six.

Going back some 5 odd years, I asked you quite a few questions above joining EK and how life was in Dubai. After spending some years in Dubai and EK (we may even have shared the same flight deck) I must thank you for a sober and open minded view in your ansewers. Your description of the place and the job is just and accurate.

Havn`t been on this forum for years, not a lot has change, but I am supprised that you still are living in Dubai and making a living of Emirates( or may be it is the other way around)!

You hopefulls out their can listen to this gentleman and expect to get an honnest opinion.

All the best.

Hello JD. You are welcome anytime my friend.
Yes, still here. I have a few applications in elsewhere. Just trying to get back home and live in a "normal'' place. ;) Our eldest child has 18 more months of school to go. And then, hopefully I can quitely back my bags and leave! Let's see what plans my family have in store for me:ugh:

Thanks for the kind words, I appreciate it! If you are a sidestick fiddler like me? We probably have flown together.:)

All The Best

Check 'Six'

I sent the EK online application two weeks ago and they called this morning, unfortunately i was out of town, i hope i haven´t lost my chance. At this time i have 9 years as F/O in my company and at least another 6 to upgrade, i think EK will be a good move:ugh:

I wonder why they got back to you so quickly?A good move .........

deteita,

Don't worry - you haven't lost your chance. They'll keep calling and calling until they get hold of you. Just think of it as practice for your later dealings with crew scheduling.:)

Dedeita, if you join EK now, you can expect to remain in the right seat in excess of 7 years, IMHO. So don't join for a quicker upgrade but just for a change of lifestyle/country/aircraft etc, if this suits you better.

thanks all of you for reply... Do you think you can live a decent way with EK F/O salary if you have family(wife and two 1 year old girls). I have read that supermarket and entertainment are very expensive...Do you think EK is an airline to stay until retirement(at 60).:sad:

NO := to both.

Absolutely Not! With current pay and conditions you will find yourself wondering why you came here in the first place? That of course depends on how much you are making now and what your cost of living is?
But here in Dubai on FO salary with two kids? Not good at all!
The salary needs some serious injections, preferably with anabolic steroids! And soon!
Check 'Six'

Salary is an issue, and with the demise of the US$, getting more serious daily depending on your home currency but we need a life. Rostering and FTLs need to be fixed properly with a realistic view to the long term. The fudging and flexing of regulations and the average monthly hours make this kind of life unsustainable no matter how much you're paid.

is ek really that bad?
 

well, let managers and numbers speak:
emergency meeting with the talking horse and tcas, because the total backlog of acceptable pilots in the pipeline is between (two sources) 22 and 40!!
it seems that pilots in other operators are a little more informed and less foolish than ek always presumes:
quote from the cold weather brief : "Don’t be fooled by procedures at other operators." :ugh:

I would have liked to join all of you at EK but i staying at home.. It seems too risky leave my job for just a promise of being upgraded to heavy jet captain in less than 5 years...BTW thanks all of you for reply:{

I totally agree Fatbus with you. Please those of you who do not like it leave and make room for us to join. There are people where ever they go, they will always complain. I see them here in the US all the time and they get paid 3 times more than me and you know what I am even more qualified then them for the job they have. So, please leave now if you do not like EK....as for me I know many pilots that are there and love it... so stop discouraging those of how want to get in.
:yuk:

ERJ145Flyer...

How can you agree with fatbus? I mean, if you're not working here at EK, how can you have a valid opinion about how things work here?

Ok, your colleagues might be better paid then you are. Ever wondered how that's possible? Maybe they have a lot more experience then you? Maybe they made a right choice early in their career? Anyhow, you shouldn't complain about how much other people earn, you should strive to get the same.
And what makes you more qualified then they are? If you were, you would probably in their seat, earning their money.

After this post I have an opinion about you (which might be wrong): You look like a frustrated regional jet flyer, probably bounced of the mainline after Sept 11. You will do anything to fly the big nice shiny jets, even bend over and take it hard (no vaseline provided). Because of your frustration, you can't see the struggle people here at EK have, and thus you can not sympathise with us.
I really hope you will get a job out here as a F/O. You might even prove to me what you're really worth should we end up in a typhoon. middle of the night in Hyderabad, or in a thunderstorm around Addis... But most of all, I wish you won't change your name here on pprune after you join EK (should you have the chance..) It's always funny to see how the wannabees change their mind after about a year in Fantasyland.. And, yes, me too, I'm guilty of that!!

MR8

Do you guys get paid extra over the monthly average?

Yes, I am a frustrated regional jet flyer, and I have been trying to move on to the shiny jets for a very long time.... Is that wrong? You know the industry and the slow down, and sir, I do have the PIC JET time (military and civil) and no, I am not like you put it....bounced of the mainline, never had the chance to get there... you were just lucky to be at the right place when the wheel of time was turning. So, there is no need to use low language, just as you have your opinion, I have mine. Again, yes I did not get there yet, but I know of other people working with EK who are happy. And I do look forward to flying with you in any situation....because you will have the opportunity to really know me, then make your opinion. Finally, if it is so bad, why are you still there, have you applied somewhere else....hmm...Cheers!

I don't have a dog in this fight, however I do have an observation. If you know many pilots at Emirates who love it there, why don't you ask your questions of them, instead of getting into a pissing contest on this public forum.
No I do not work at Emirates, but have been asked twice in the last two months to attend a "selection programme". No where is utopia and the EK F/Os do have some very valid concerns, especially those who have had their upgrades delayed by the DEC folks. I guess going from a Jungle Jet to a triple 7 would seem like utopia. After about 6 months it is just an airplane.

I do not doubt that there may be some issues, and I did not post any questions here. All I said is, in my opinion, for those who do not like it, should quit and go to their respective countries and get the better pay, schedules, life style, etc, etc.... Like someone said earlier, it is not for everybody. And yes, there are happy people there and they have answered my questions. Also, yes this is a public forum, and it is not just a one way forum mister... so I say chap..