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TiroP 2nd June 2004 18:02

Bexair?
 
Hearing strange news from the Suk. New 601 stuck in USA, crew no money. No CCs. No fuel. All pilots in arrears and those on leave unlikely to return to BAH. WIHIH?

global707 3rd June 2004 15:31

Heard the same with some guys leaving due to non payments

bluesafrique 3rd June 2004 20:12

Well, let's see what happens...maybe few vacancies will open for brave men....

TiroP 4th June 2004 09:25

I think you are right, Blues. And Latte Tester seems to know what he's talking about. Have just got fixed up in DXB with a decent outfit ... :)

superman_32 5th June 2004 08:42

Bexair
 
Tell me more please as I have recently applied and I was told to go and get my type rating done. was offered good deal .......should I go for it or not!!!!

TiroP 5th June 2004 10:35

Hey, Superman, read the boards and make up your own mind :hmm:

MD11Flyer 5th June 2004 13:07

Superman I thought you wanted to fly for Qatar?!? OR do you plan on flying for every middle eastern carrier?

bluesafrica 6th June 2004 15:26

Superman,
I think that Bexair has few openings on Challengers. Understand that they are trying to find some pilots who do not need to be paid on time and who are willing to pay they own expenses while on trip. Anyone meeting such requirements should apply!
Blues:}

TiroP 7th June 2004 21:09

Back where we started on this topic, but word from suk says subject 601 is now on ground LTN with a similar logistic problem, and crew this time have gone home.

Blues. you seem to be in the loop here. WIHIH?

bluesafrica 8th June 2004 17:37

601 is at Luton. Crew went home to wait they long overdue salaries and expenses from several months...
Instead of paying them company seems to use their energy trying to find a new crew. A strange policy to say the least.
Blues:}

TiroP 9th June 2004 06:56

Is there anyone out there NOT owed money by this company?
:(

slolstrom 9th June 2004 17:20

What a sad and unfortunate situation. I heard that they had hired the best flight ops and mantainance people one could get. They seem to have let them slip away! Very sad story! :(

Kopeloi 9th June 2004 17:40

Thatīs exactly what happened. Now the pilotīs are running away as soon as possible. But what would you expect if they do not even pay salaries or expenses. $15.000 short hearts everyone, I guess. However, there is still pilots who think that they can do it!
Nikolai:ugh:

beachman 9th June 2004 20:10

Let this one go, guys. There's nothing more anyone can do. Many thanks.

TiroP 10th June 2004 08:12

Life's a beach ..... ?

beachman 10th June 2004 09:06

:ok: Spot on, TiroP

slolstrom 10th June 2004 11:09

Hey TiroP, so flying in DBX now? Like it?

TiroP 10th June 2004 13:15

It certainly beats looking for a job, slolstrom.

Can't figure out who you are? Have we drunk beer together?

Bumz_Rush 10th June 2004 15:02

Interviews in London.
 
Interviews in London........a hotel near (ish) Luton.

Should any crew member be owed money by Bexair.

Please post the sum and reason on this thread.

It might just reach the parts that other posts can not reach.


It is in Luton.

I assume it will get out upon cash payment.

Itswindyout 10th June 2004 15:15

PYO Type rating
 
Based on what I have just read, I can think of no reason to pay for my own type rating...and then expect them to pay me back.....

If they owe so much money to so many people perhaps the aircraft will be impounded in Luton.

LTN Man....any info as to how long it has been there, and who is handling....

Kopeloi 10th June 2004 16:34

I did hear that previous crew were owed excess of $25K in salaries and expenses when they parked at Luton. Lot of money!
Nikolai

slolstrom 10th June 2004 19:39

Hey TiroP

I am pretty sure we must have drunk a few beers together in the past! As for the crew out 25k plus, not too sure if 25k plus is the right amount. Later

Active Wings 13th June 2004 09:10

Bexair
 
I heard new crew abandoned the aircraft in LTN after getting the training paid by bexair! .....How cheap can one be! :yuk:

pistonengine 13th June 2004 09:28

New Crew
 
Hi active wings,

Being cheap is onething, and being a thief is another!

friends told me that the crew have stolen the keys of the aircraft along with some equipment that was on board..????

I personally belive that people are trying to bad mouth Bexair..

I know some friends who fly with Bexair.. and they say none of the statments posted are corect

ttyl

Pilocol 13th June 2004 09:46

Bexair....all true
 
Well my friends... I tried to restrain miself from writing, but...
I flew for them and so far is almost the end of June and no salary from FEBRUARY .... not a lie.
Think about it....Yes some say it is not that bad ... ofcourse ... they don't have any needs ... I have to support a family, I need my salary and expenses and perdiems and house allowance and car allowance and etc...
Don't let some of them fool you they are crooks and If the guy that flew the 601 took the keys ... well done, may be the company will pay them in order to get them back (The keys)

More info???

Keep it safe..

Active Wings 13th June 2004 11:23

RE: Bexair....its true!
 
Hey Pilocol,

are you still working for bexair?

pistonengine 13th June 2004 11:42

Bexair....its all true!
 
601 departed with another set of key's and legal action was taken against the pilot.

keyes of an aircraft remains as "company property"

What would happen to the pilots professional career in this case...(Anyone???)

Comical Ali 13th June 2004 14:26

What a terrible thing from pilot to do! Did he receive his payments on time or what was the reason for the departure?
Ali

Kopeloi 13th June 2004 15:19

I am pretty sure that pilots are leaving only because they were not paid. Correct me if I am wrong.
Nikolai

Bumz_Rush 13th June 2004 16:44

also: see 604 in GA/Biz avn.
 
I have it from the horses mouth, and I trust this horse 101% that the company owes him in excess of 18K US. In his shoes I would (and have in the past) retained items from aircraft, (having told the company my intentions) to ensure settlement of my expenses, and salary. The company acused me of blackmail I accused them of fraud.

Comical: you live up to your name, read the threads.

Pilocol: we spoke via PM earlier. (and I think we might have met in FSI ICT.)

Pistonengine: you are 100% wrong. the company is (I am not allowed to put it in writing). My friends are bigger than your friends.

Let the battle continue.....pistols at dawn......

TiroP 13th June 2004 18:23

Pistonengine, you must stop talking to Active Wings. You'll fog the mirror.:cool:

4HolerPoler 14th June 2004 00:48

Gentlemen,

In order to keep this thread going I'm going to need your co-operation. Folk who've identified themselves as BX management are bombarding us with emails threating legal action if we don't withdraw this thread. Now we don't scare that easy but I cannot tolerate any posts here that are blatant misinformation or untruths. Where there's smoke there's fire & something's happening here - keep your reporting factual and your rumours reasonable & we'll keep this thread alive.

4HP

homesick rae 14th June 2004 01:40

4HP: fair comment.

When I was recently in DXB I received, to my knowledge, certain reliable info which basically said that BX needed a "revamp" of sorts. I was interested, not on the Flight Deck side I may add, to assist them and have tried, unsuccessfully, to contact the person I was directed to. (JD)

Like anyone in the industry I do not like to hear of any non payment and malconduct from the management, but, for me I would like to find out the facts.

All the best

HR

Kopeloi 14th June 2004 08:26

Which part of the tread BX management donīt like? If there is no unpaid salaries and expenses let them confirm that. However, where there is smoke there is always a fire as well...
Nikolai

PPRuNe Towers 14th June 2004 09:05

Here at the Towers we are happy for this thread to continue.

Bex managers reading take heed. You can threaten all you like - pro pilots are getting the story and will continue to do so.

Rob

Bumz_Rush 14th June 2004 10:05

ALL MY POSTS are 100% FACT
 
PpTowers: 4HP: I can say no more...In fact I have not made several posts to ensure that only 100% fact is posted, and NO info that might identify myself or certain others who are much closer to the action than I am.

Home sick: I was also in the same position...I can help you guys, but you must help your self too.

Perhaps those who claim to be management: should be invited to post their response.......

bluesafrica 14th June 2004 12:05

I would think that Bexair management should take a stand and tell why pilots are not paid on time and in some cases not at all.
I can then tell how much 601 crew was owed when they reached LTN. Crew was actually sent home by Bexair to wait they overdue salaries. Instead paying them Bexair started to look a new crew immediately through different agencies!!!!
Blues:ugh:

BizJetJock 15th June 2004 17:25

I was contacted through two channels asking if I was available to pick up the 601 from Luton. Neither of the intermediaries knew that I was already owed money by Bexair, so were surprised at my declining. ( I couldn't have done it anyway as I'm busy at present, but that's not the point).
If any UK residents who are owed money want to PM me, I have been looking into getting a court lien applied, which means that next time the aircraft lands anywhere in the UK it is impounded until the company either pays up (money plus legal costs) or demonstrates in court that it doesn't owe the money. I'm not worried about the second possibility!

Pilocol 17th June 2004 12:14

Bexair NO $$$
 
Do I have to be aresident of the UK.
I,m an EU citizen ... can I join in..????

Antipodean Angel 20th June 2004 16:58

Bexair going down...............
 
Maybe all the money Bexair owe to ex employees is being spent on slave labour camp based in saudi!!!


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