...and I was wondering where it went! Either Bexair is in serious financial problems or not properly managed. Too many claims seem to surface constantly. Should be great to hear if anyone been paid as agreed.
Blues

From yesterday's Gulf Daily News
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MANAMA: Bahrain Executive Air Services Company (Bexair) has expanded its fleet with the addition of a new aircraft.

The new Bombardier Challenger aircraft is expected to enter into service within days, according to a statement issued by the company.
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Does this mean that "within days" they hope to find a crew daft enough to get involved?

Its very quiet out there......
 

Well have the legal eagles won, or did Bexair pay the crew....

Tell us someone please.


Bumz

Grade 1 BAH BritClub goss says pilots, and other local suppliers, are actioning the company via the Bahrain courts for "many, many thousands". Could take a while, tho :(

Could be much better for all involved if the nice and peacefull solution could be reached. Pilots like to fly and not to fight for their money in the courts.
Blues

Yerrite, Blues.

But a source v close to the action says the company just blanks any approach.

Alas, lawyers will get even richer ......

Dr G, check your PM

What´s going on at Bexair? Are all aircrafts properly crewed and everyone paid up to date?
Hope that there was a peacefull solution reached and all planes flying a busy schedule.
Kopeloi

I just love your sense of humour, Kopeloi :)

Answers: No, No, No, & No.

Will be interesting to see how long they can keep going with such a many "NO´s". One would expect that sooner or later a local CAA will start also looking deeper into such situation.
Pity, they seem to have perfect fleet and a nice operational area. Why not to get a professionals to run a show?
Nikolai

...hmmm, some interesting comments over the past few pages. For those who still want to apply, go for it as it would seem that all the warnings are falling on deaf ears. Pilots who "pimp" themselves for either flying time or the prospect of easy money, effectively lower the standard for the rest of us who have morals. Having been an employee of BEXAIR's predecessor, with the same owner and basic office staff, I'm still owed money. I left them Dec 2001 when I was handed a termination notice the same day the aircraft left the company...so much for the contractual two month notice...
I could go on, but I hope that people have got the point and will take a good long look at the history behind this company before making a decision.
Regarding the 601, as this is the title of the thread, as of today 1 July '04, (Happy Birthday Canada), the aircraft is still on the ramp in Luton without crew. The company may have found part time pilots for an upcoming contract, but that is not confirmed.

:ok:

Sure looks like someone has made up his mind to run the company by "my way or highway" method. Too bad that this particular version included no payments for crews either.
Let´s look how long such policy can be forced before referee will be called. Wonder how many pilots and engineers are still there?
Blues

Bexair unveils 'Challenger'
 

From today's Gulf Daily News:

http://www.gulf-daily-news.com

MANAMA: Bahrain Executive Air Services Company (Bexair) unveiled its new Bombardier Challenger business jet yesterday, before announcing plans to further expand its fleet by the end of the year.The arrival of the new aircraft takes Bexair's fleet to four, but there are plans to add another Challenger before December, according to chairman and chief executive officer Mansour Al Tassan.

He said the "VVIP" carrier is responding to growing demand in the regional market for chartered transport.

"The addition of this new Challenger is part of our fleet expansion," he told the GDN yesterday.

"The executive aviation market is getting bigger and bigger in the Gulf area and by adding this aircraft we hope to increase our market share.

"We are discussing the purchase of another Challenger, which we hope to conclude by the end of the year."

Mr Al Tassan says there are three main reasons for the growing demand for business jets in the region.

They are increasing trade between Arab states, growing awareness of the market and a limited number of licensed operators.

Bexair's new Challenger aircraft is worth $20 million and has been purchased through a financing deal with Credit Suisse.

It was unveiled yesterday in a reception at the Bexair terminal, Bahrain International Airport.

The company is part of the Saudi ASASCO group, but has been based out of Bahrain since 2002.

An estimated 15 per cent of its regional business is generated in this country.

In addition to the two Bombardier Challengers, Bexair also operates two Cessna Citation aircraft.

The company employs around 55 members of staff.

Looks like that they are still growing! Wonder if they really have crews left to get all those planes flying? There was a quite of exodus out from Bahrain lately!
Nikolai

Dr G, did you enjoy your lunch?

http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/arc_A...&IssueID=27103

Are you a :mad: Bexair Journo mole?

A great story from Dr G. Wonder why he didn´t mention that for the next , Bexair have plans to find some crews to fly those new Challengers.
Blues

none
 

Just rememeber, that ALL of us who fly, have a skill that management don't. If you want to walk or go by train, then go ahead. Really, why bite the hand that feeds you? Your aeroplane is useless without us. Maybe you should realise that. All these complaints are genuine from guys that work hard and try to please you, but you aint going anywhere fast without them.

I don´t think that Bexair management lacks a skill. The problem seems to be that their account department seems to be unable to do a salary payments! That obviously causes other problems down the line. Then finally airplanes stop making a noise when there is no one left able to start them up.....or maybe there is no fuel. Who cares.
Nikolai

tic, I'm not sure that Bexair's management really gives a sh-- about what pilots complain about especially when they can get guys for an 11 month on and 1 month off contract for US$3500/month...on the 604.
Besides, Mr. Tassan obviously wants to use his money to buy more aircraft unfortunately, he fails to remember pilots and what the good ones are worth.
Some things change with time, but I'm not sure that there's enough time for us to witness the change.

You're right Latte Tester they dont give a S*** .
Never fear though - rumour has it, justice is at hand.
Gentlemen now is the time to jump on the wagon and stop the Bexair management from getting away with it also proving that this thread is not just about gossip and rumours.

We are all very keen to see the outcome in this case. Wonder how many years such a treatment for the crews been going on. Hopefully there is some rights for the expatriate crews in the Gulf area, at least to secure their unpaid salaries. What surprise me is the fact that no one from the Bexair management is willing to comment this situation here.
Nikolai:ok:

And so the story continues..................

Angel check your PM!

Have anyone been paid recently by Bexair? This means the crews that left and the few that stayed.
Blues

I don´t think that anyone has been paid . Lot of crews waiting their long overdue wages....
Ali:ugh:

Bexair again
 

Just heard yesterday that the 601 is ON... it's been sent to US for a 2 week trip ... and my salary ??? ... Any other news???

I hope that your money was not used for the 601 fuel to USA...
Nikolai:mad:

Bexair
 

Just wondering!!!

I know some of you guys are pissed off from no pay....................

What kind of package Bexair has to offer anyways?
F/O and Capt.?

1.8:ouch:

What is the difference for offering if they don´t pay at all?
Blues:mad:

Bexair Sucks....>
 

......> the life blood from the otherwise happy (ish) world of corporate aviation.

How do they manage to actually keep the existing crews.....

They dont owe me any money, so I do not have an axe to grind.

If the 601 is in the stayes, any idea where......I am in the deep south at present.....Bumz

Bumz:
The few pilots still on the (no) pay-roll are there because they have no other option available to them. I'm told per-diems are many months in arrears. I find it difficult to believe that anyone, however optionless, is prepared to work like this.

Angel:
Three first class CAs have been terminated (apparently for their past association with the "mutineers").
Is this what happened?

Blues:
Love your posts :D

Kopeloi:
Ditto :D

Comical Ali:
Ditto :D

Al Tassan:
Get real :hmm:

TP:ok:

Bexair
 

I really intersted to know what package Bexair has to offer for F/O and Capt.?

thakx
:( :p

On Challenger they offer $4500,- for F/O and $6500 for Captain plus an accommodation and transport. Not too bad but once again, do you think that they will pay for you if they don´t pay to anyone else?
Blues

Bexair
 

bluesafrica!!!!:p

No, ma'man, im not looking into ur copmany!!! I'm trying to findout what kind of pay for MidEast Biz comapnies.


Thankx anyways for your airmenship:mad:

1.8

Clever man, steer clear of them!
Nikolai

Keeping thread active
 

have Bexair actually paid the crews outstanding expenses, and salary.
I will be passing the area next week, and just need to know if a day glow flak jacket is in order.....

Bumz,
Not a penny yet. I think that only way to get those long overdue salaries and even unpaid expenses will be by legal action, unfortunately.
While you there, do me a favor and tell them that we love Bexair and its management but do not miss them at all...
Blues:*

Yerrite, Blues. Not a penny yet, but mole says legal steps are being taken. A certain UK company managed to get its dosh by grabbing the 601 at Luton. I hear Bex paid up pretty quick ;)

Have a nice trip, Bumz. You'll be looked after. Staff are great. Management is the problem.

TP

I was told that they still need more time to sort out all payments in their busy account dept. Well, only few months now, that's normal? Hopefully someone will get them!
Blues

Blues, how much time does a company supposedly as good as Bexair, need to sort out their finances? What about the pilots and their finances?
As I said previously, Bexair doesn't give a sh-- about what pilots are saying, nor do they give a sh-- about what they are really worth, they will look around and find some poor soul who needs the job and will pay them crap and treat them worse.
I am processing a legal claim against the company for money owed to me, maybe I'll wait for the 604 to show up in the UK and block it there...hmmm

Right, Latte. That's the way to do it :ok:

An optimist at Bex is rifling through old CVs and phoning around in an attempt to recruit pilots. Poor chap even phoned ME. (He won't do that again) :ouch:

Perhaps those who don't read Pprune, or who have had a frontal lobotomy, may be interested.