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BigGeordie 20th Sep 2023 11:00

Clearly I'm behind the times again, but what is this video of which you speak? Can somebody send me a link?
And yes, you can easily go 12 years and never have a problem in the sim. But should sim checks be a lottery?

Cincihanna 22nd Sep 2023 13:43

Emirates Pilot Roadshow
 
Hello guys, Emirates is about to come to my city, I already have a “process” with them but haven’t heard from them since 5 month ago (hirevue) and still says “under review”.
I’m planning to assist to the roadshow, could you please give me pieces of advice?
what kind of questions will they ask, are they the same questions as the online interview or what to expect from them?
I’m planning to wear a suit, but what do you think?
there’s no information anywhere so I will really appreciate your advice.
thank you in advance!

SOPS 22nd Sep 2023 16:40

An interesting read is the is the latest EK Press release, how they are rolling out the Red Carpet for experienced Airbus Captains for the A380.

And how everything is wonderful in EK and Dubai.

Hotclown 22nd Sep 2023 20:19


Originally Posted by Mr.CB (Post 11503425)
Application status says under review after 9 months now.. anybody else facing same? I’m current on B737 with 3100 hrs approx

let me guess here. you work for flydubai!
if you do so then good luck cause it won't happen

Monarch Man 22nd Sep 2023 21:38

Its amazing what you forget, and what you get used too, the Turkish guy really did nail it with his description of events and the depiction of life within the confines of EK.
As BG said.."why should the sim be a lottery?"
Understand the reality of the place, make your money...then leave, best advice I was ever given.

flyTheBigFatLady 23rd Sep 2023 03:43


Originally Posted by SOPS (Post 11507292)
An interesting read is the is the latest EK Press release, how they are rolling out the Red Carpet for experienced Airbus Captains for the A380.

And how everything is wonderful in EK and Dubai.

they kick so many fo, who were read for command,
including passed Interview out the door, who are missing now - lol - EK planing at its best

motley flight crue 23rd Sep 2023 09:32

If you can’t get into EK at the moment, then throw your licence away, you are hopeless!!!

FQT2YS 23rd Sep 2023 17:25


Originally Posted by motley flight crue (Post 11507627)
If you can’t get into EK at the moment, then throw your licence away, you are hopeless!!!

Yepp… Still don’t know how I managed to survive after a decade working for them! But hey, I am still alive 😂😂😂😂

Yorkshire_Pudding 24th Sep 2023 00:29


Originally Posted by motley flight crue (Post 11507627)
If you can’t get into EK at the moment, then throw your licence away, you are hopeless!!!

Don’t they give you a fresh new GCAA license in the UAE when you sign up anyway, to avoid those annoying new joiner issues? (The GCAA license is of course worthless when you leave the UAE anyway). Mates with DUI couldn’t get a second officer prop rank back home, yet are now senior P1s on Ek 380 in the pit. Who needs a pilots license to join Ek anyway, mate ☺️

PammyAnderson 27th Sep 2023 09:26

Can someone tell me how many days off a roster/month you get? I hear the bidding system is awful also? Any feedback appreciated

FQT2YS 27th Sep 2023 20:24


Originally Posted by PammyAnderson (Post 11509920)
Can someone tell me how many days off a roster/month you get? I hear the bidding system is awful also? Any feedback appreciated

The bidding system has been awful over the last couple of years!! The old system used to be a lot better, as long as one knew how to use it properly!
BUT the old system created satisfaction and that is not desired by EK!

PammyAnderson 28th Sep 2023 10:10

Thanks, what’s the min days off per roster or month?

BigGeordie 28th Sep 2023 12:09

Minimum days off is 8 and that is what you can expect on the 777. 380 will be more like 12 but you will do more hours (typically around 100 block hours for captains at the moment but the FO rosters are catching up quickly). The bidding system is not worthy of the name. If you get one thing you ask for (for example, "layover in Europe") you bid is 100% satisfied and the computer will stop looking for other stuff to keep you happy. As a previous poster said, it sometimes seems that satisfaction is not only unimportant but actively discouraged!

PammyAnderson 29th Sep 2023 08:44


Originally Posted by BigGeordie (Post 11510672)
Minimum days off is 8 and that is what you can expect

so your possibly only home 8 days? Is that a month or is a roster 4 weeks? wow I would have thought with the long haul flying you would get a fair bit more than that.

BigGeordie 29th Sep 2023 09:28

If you get offered a job you will be asigned a fleet. You may be allowed to express a preference but they will put you where they need you. 737 pilots can end up on the Airbus and 320 pilots can end up on the Beoing. There doesn't seem to be any logic to it sometimes. The 777 does a lot less long haul than the 380 and a lot more turnarounds so you will usually be home more than 8 days a calandar month, but be aware there are some long freighter trips on the Boeing fleet (and a lot of deadheading) so you could be away for up to 7 days at a time, then have 2 days off, then go away again. There will also be some rest days in there from all the night flying you will be doing, typically 3 or 4. However, when you get home at 9am after a night turnaround you will basically be sleeping most of the day. I'd say generally both fleets spend about the same amount of time in Dubai over an average month but rosters vary considerably month to month.

You may be under the impression that Emirates is a long haul airline with 3 or 4 trips away every month and a lot of time off. It isn't, it is nothing like that and the mix of flying in the Middle East is probably unique. Do not apply to Emirates thinking it will be good for your family life and you will spend lots of time at home.

Kennytheking 29th Sep 2023 09:50


Originally Posted by BigGeordie (Post 11511293)
You may be under the impression that Emirates is a long haul airline with 3 or 4 trips away every month and a lot of time off. It isn't, it is nothing like that and the mix of flying in the Middle East is probably unique. Do not apply to Emirates thinking it will be good for your family life and you will spend lots of time at home.

I guess we have different experiences of Emirates - I assume you on the boeing. This is all I do - 4 trips, sometimes 5 a month. If you count the days you arrive home before 9am as a day at home then I typically have about 18 days a month at home and that is on a 100 hour roster.

And man do I wish we had some of the freighter trips with all the deadheading in first.

BigGeordie 29th Sep 2023 13:05

As I said, rosters do vary.

SOPS 29th Sep 2023 13:13


Originally Posted by Kennytheking (Post 11511310)
I guess we have different experiences of Emirates - I assume you on the boeing. This is all I do - 4 trips, sometimes 5 a month. If you count the days you arrive home before 9am as a day at home then I typically have about 18 days a month at home and that is on a 100 hour roster.

And man do I wish we had some of the freighter trips with all the deadheading in first.

You arrive home before 9am. Having flown through the night. And you are counting that as a day off? I would think it’s a day to recover. And if you are doing 100 hours a month, long haul, with 18 days “off”, you are really getting hammered on your days on.

flyTheBigFatLady 29th Sep 2023 13:28


Originally Posted by SOPS (Post 11511438)
You arrive home before 9am. Having flown through the night. And you are counting that as a day off? I would think it’s a day to recover. And if you are doing 100 hours a month, long haul, with 18 days “off”, you are really getting hammered on your days on.

sorry I don’t believe u are doing 100 block in 12 days
housten for excample is a 16 hour flight you will be credited 24 for the entire trip you spend 56 hours there - the hole thing takes already 5 days min - leaving at begin at 3am arriving at 6am in the end
88 or so is the target productivity so a min of two of those is need and you barely achieve 60 % productivity

Kennytheking 29th Sep 2023 15:58


Originally Posted by SOPS (Post 11511438)
You arrive home before 9am. Having flown through the night. And you are counting that as a day off? I would think it’s a day to recover. And if you are doing 100 hours a month, long haul, with 18 days “off”, you are really getting hammered on your days on.

I never said it was a day off. I said it was a day at home. The implication going around here is that you disappear for 22 days of the months never to see your wife and kids. Take it any way you wish.


sorry I don’t believe u are doing 100 block in 12 days
housten for excample is a 16 hour flight you will be credited 24 for the entire trip you spend 56 hours there - the hole thing takes already 5 days min - leaving at begin at 3am arriving at 6am
I never said anything about block hours. The 100 hours is credit hours. Houston is worth 31.2 hours and I don't give a rats how many block hours it is. They pay me for the 31 hours, not 24. Houston also leaves at 08h20 and arrives back at 19h45.


in the end
88 or so is the target productivity so a min of two of those is need and you barely achieve 60 % productivity
I have no idea what this means.

For October, I have 95 hours credit plus manual handling - let's add 3 hours for that. I have also taken the liberty of adding 3.5 hour for the 1 day of leave I have. Again, make of that whatever you want.

Breaking up the 95 hours, I have 4 trips, 11 pink days ie days off, 3 rest days, 1 standby day and the sim session. 3 of the 4 trips will have me home before 9am.





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