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Stick Flying 12th Aug 2020 16:19

Chinese CAA = Law unto whatever they want. Accept or walk away.

krismiler 12th Aug 2020 23:48

Qatar accept licences from most countries, some of the countries that the Qatar licence is based on may be unacceptable to CAAC. Try your original licence instead, however there may be issues with currency for medical and I/R.

planeur 13th Aug 2020 10:35


Originally Posted by mmorel (Post 10855848)
Does anyone know if we can sue Qatar Airways?

I was flying more than 90 hours per months during FEB -August and still they force us to use all of our vacations so basically 15 days off being prison in doha and then 15 days of intense flying and then right after maxing out our hours for the following month they terminated us.
They forced us to work in dangerous situation and lay over in hotels that we might get Corona and then once they used all of out vacation times they terminated people.

I think there should be a way to sue and make this public to the world

I sympathise to a certain degree. But 'the World' watched as Al Bakar declared C19 was not a threat. Qatar maintained or even ramped up service (and prices) without pre flight covid testing, dumping many tens of thousands of potentially infected (or newly infected from the flight) passengers into our major cities with catastrophic results especially in the UK which I concede was negligent too. This as other airlines actually although no saints, cut back. The death toll and damage has been huge.

Although there are lots of sad financial, schooling and loss of dream cases in the industry. There has been a huge death toll, hardship, misery and ongoing catastrophic economic demise globally. We should take time to reflect on how we as a pilot body together with our industry have knowingly proliferated this pandemic and hope for robust future measures protecting crew, industry workers and last but not least the vulnerable populations of the nations to which we operate.

tonker 13th Aug 2020 16:49

I have been home for a considerable amount of time now, and like my fellow associates I still haven’t been payed. Any idea what the “normal” amount of time they take to pay. My last pay packet was end of June!

mmorel 13th Aug 2020 17:42

They usually cancel your exit permit and you can't leave Qatar until they calculate the right amount for your services.

casablanca 13th Aug 2020 18:17

My last day was April 23.... I received end of service benefits rather quick- last pay check came end of June , so more than 2 months

mmorel 13th Aug 2020 21:11

casablanca
did you stay two months before leaving qatar?

CDRW 14th Aug 2020 14:35

Planeur! You doth talk out of your ass!

RoyHudd 14th Aug 2020 16:19

QR have today announced an expansion of its flight programme to the UK. Could this be better news?

casablanca 15th Aug 2020 13:11

mmorel

no....once they determined you are owed more money than you have obligations in Qatar then you are allowed to leave almost immediately......
I had to ask to leave asap for another job start date

Marcus555 15th Aug 2020 20:40

New wave 😞

Silver68 15th Aug 2020 21:16

care to share?

Skyfl410 18th Aug 2020 16:05

Honestly, after four loooong years, i am delighted to know i was made redundant. Yes i know it's not the best moment to lose my job, but with the money, I worked hard for I can carry on for a while. The day I received the call from HR I WAS SHOCKED! Now after nearly two months I really don't miss the airline, the turnaround flights, the sleepless nights, the threatening emails from the company and the silly eLearnings on grooming.

Pilots and Cabin crew are just way stressed out by the company. On 350, the last three-four months started to become worst than hell. 130/140 hrs per month, Europe and Asia turnaround paid half of the salary, a good friend on 350 did SYD turnaround and got paid only 6 hours. Even with fewer flights most fight deck crew are stressed and fatigued ( I still wonder how QR roster managed this ).....The fear of getting a call is always round the corner. You never know when HR will call you.... the same thing happened to me after a flight I got Roster change and a phone call from HR. The company doesn't give any communication on when the redundancy will stop which creates great stress on personnel.
Managers are too busy calling pilots to the office regarding WhatsApp groups or social media, this is the only thing that seems to matter to them. They are terrified that the world knows what really goes on.
Recently thirty pilots got terminated / redundant for gossiping about the airline on a privet WhatsApp group. Qr managers have managed to control all the Whatsapp groups in the pilot community. Also, company accommodation group was closed.

The airline spends a lot of money and recourse on ENDLESS CRM courses taking about teamwork and communication but still, nobody trusts each other and management lacks in proper communication and teamwork.

Pilots and cabin crew are at high risk of being infected but are terrified to call sick days because they could lose their job even for a normal flue. This is QR SAFETY culture ....I don't understand how authorities around the world allow QR to land in their country.

The funny thing is that the national carrier of the worlds wealthiest country behaves like the worlds worst low-cost carriers.


I can say many funny things about them but i have already wasted too much of my time.

Any info you need ask in PM.

stay safe and better days will come.

Flapsupbedsdown 19th Aug 2020 09:31

:ugh: QA "is" Qcaa!!

FlyingOW 19th Aug 2020 09:39

No you cannot. We are doing layovers in Aus which means hotel room lockdown due current Aus regulations.


Skyfl410 19th Aug 2020 11:49

apologise, i was not clear..i meant DOH-SYD operating SYD-DOH deadheading back. Keep in mind your not paid for DEAHEADING FLIGHTS and hours spent in the bunk.

Lucifer786 19th Aug 2020 16:04

Skyfl410

And may I dare to enquire, are these ‘Managers’ Indians who don’t actually fly but are ‘Captains’ nevertheless … hahahahaha

Marcus555 19th Aug 2020 16:06

Time to go back to EU,,,forget about this dessert forsaken land

Holymoly 19th Aug 2020 17:59

Skyfl410

Nice post, I think exactly the same

Birdy1062 19th Aug 2020 20:44


Originally Posted by Skyfl410 (Post 10865004)
apologise, i was not clear..i meant DOH-SYD operating SYD-DOH deadheading back. Keep in mind your not paid for DEAHEADING FLIGHTS and hours spent in the bunk.

Did something similar in the past for an Italian charter company, operating crew to go, 2-3 hours on the ground , and DH back in Y class and uniform. Obviously no possibility to rest on the way back, with service, kids crying, people going to the bathroom etc....
total duty was 26h.....

Did it only once And was destroyed fro the next 3 days.
This will kill people, or driving back home cause your attention level is at the level of your shoes, or simply because your body can’t cope with that.

Shame shame shame!




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