is this some weird BS PR again where they try to make the company look really good from the outside? Coz I know a lot of crew are still stranded outside of their countries with no updates 🤣

Re joining Captain salary
 

Can anyone confirm that captains that are called back are receiving a salary of QR24400 + usual benefits?
This is new joiners pay minus 25% on a permanent base which basically will create a company within the compan and a lot of frustration.

As mentioned in the video, prioritizing crew with good performance/record. What ever that means? So if you have some history (letters) in the company, you are no longer welcome? Let's wait and see...

mes4x

Quite correct. I think the general consensus is revalidate and get current..... and wait for the market to open up. The salary isn't worth the effort. The only reason you come to the ME is to earn a better salary than at home. With this pay reduction, that is no longer the case.

mes4x

I enjoyed my almost 8 years in Qatar, but ultimately decided the money we were saving didn't justify being so far from home.....and my basic was 43 when I left..... For those without income and a family to feed any job is a blessing and to be appreciated-but 24,400 as a captain is pretty pathetic especially in an expensive country like Qatar.

mes4x

So you will have long time high seniority returners ( who left through no fault of their own) earning less than people who joined 18 months ago who were lucky to have remained through the pandemic? Have the ones who stayed though the pandemic also dropped 25% ?

Logic doesn’t work in this country” or in the sandpit! This is all going to bite QR pretty soon.

Agreed. All returning pilots have no bond and only seven days notice is required for six months after line check.

Returning A330 will have some kind of a bond for sure.

yep it’s the standard 3 year bond - I know a couple of guys. However most of these guys have no/minimal Boeing experience. They figure they’ll need minimum 1,000 - 2,000hrs PIC on Type to make themselves marketable… that and by the time the market picks up, it will be a couple of years before they can do anything… at which point if they want to pay the Bond off, it won’t be too much.

90% of the Rejoiners so far are already Boeing Rated… so no Bond.

Out of curiosity when would QR need to look to start hiring externally again? I’ve seen comments here and from the boss. I was one day away from handing in my notice they canned me.

You don't sound stupid, no worries. And yeah, naiveness and stup***ty are forgivable.

I am sure that the lateral head shakers will accept the new contract. "Too much good, too much good"

alphadelta1

Why would you ask for a lower salary when you can ask for no salary at all?
There you go my friends, there will always be a :mad: asking to do your job for cheaper. And after a while they're the first ones to complain about the conditions going down.
I definitely have no more faith in the pilot community...

THanks a lot Sanpilot 350 for you clarification.

Is the salary lower if you have a new staff number or same as before Covid?
I can't believe they will have 2 salary scheme for the same job.

AD1`, your obviously young and unfortunately naieve. Do you not see where this leads? So you want just enough for some small savings, the next lamb wants just enough to cover the loan from his training, the next just the hours to progress up the ladder to the next job. What is the next step up the ladder when it is this far down? You degrade our profession and ruin your own future. I understand your basis for your statement but you have to also see what you do to the profession and your fellow pilots and your future.
Do you really want to be a bargain basement pilot?

New staff number means new salary.

alphadelta1

My oh my 🤦‍♂️
You didn't even catch the irony of my comment regarding the salary (I thought it was pretty obvious but apparently not for everyone).

So, IRONIC MODE ON: you shouldn't ask for a salary because hey, let's face it, the company would do you a big favour by hiring you. First of all with just a CPL you know pretty much nothing and you will be a burden to the captain. Plus imagine all the flight hours you would log on those big shinny jets, with that experience after a few years you would finally be able to apply to an airline that gives you just enough to live as you say. Oh no wait, by then these airlines wouldn't exist anymore because of all the morrons offering to work for next to nothing. The decent airlines would not pay their pilots because they have to compete with worse airlines making their pilots pay to have the privilege to sit in their cockpit (it's called pay to fly, and it already exists). After all who cares if you don't get paid, being a pilot is still pretty cool. Imagine all the pictures you could post on instagram to impress everyone, imagine how you would look in their nice uniform, all the young and hot flight attendants will fall for you for sure!

IRONIC MODE OFF: people like you degrade the conditions for everyone, and then come and complain that the job is not what it used to be without even realizing they are the ones at the heart of the problem, shooting themselves in the foot.
We don't pay 150k just to have enough to live as you say. This is a career. If you want to have just enough to live go work for McDonald's. You are an embarrasment to the profession.

Very well said, because of these people some companies abuse pilots with pathetic working conditions and contracts

Lets be honest, Young Flight attendants would fall for a 60yr old A380 Captain too 😉