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5star 20th Dec 2020 20:00

I had to recheck the thread title just to be sure this was not EK....
Exactly EVERYTHING that has been described above, has taken place at EK....one would start to think they’re running the 2
airlines together....
Needless to say... spineless arabs with wasta at the top and some brown nosing expats in the office doing te dirty work...
well done...well done...
For those who got unlucky... there is light at the end of the tunnel...
And I’d rather become an uber driver than slaving again for these .....(word left out as to not get banned).
Semper Memento.

GDAJB 20th Dec 2020 22:58

It is not all one sided. Spare a thought for the poor managers who won’t actually be able to fire anybody on Christmas day because it falls on a Friday this year!

FlyingAce77 21st Dec 2020 05:58

These Managers along with Business Support “Ladies” would be drinking to their sorrows of covering up each other’s ****

Flapsupbedsdown 21st Dec 2020 11:41

5star

Pretty sure that should they call you back tomorrow, the day afyer you'll be in doha🤣

Ticker1 21st Dec 2020 11:50

The reason why it looks so much like EK is because QR wants to be EK they dream to be EK but they will never be they will always live under the shadow of EK, just a clear example look at our management in Flight ops they used to be EK so all the trash that EK throw in the garbage bin QR goes and Immediately picks them up because they want to know whats happening at EK they want to be EK so badly.

tundrapilot 21st Dec 2020 17:52

Agree, they will never be EK and they will never manage to make Doha look like Dubai..

Aviateur86 21st Dec 2020 17:57

That's exactly the point, how can you explain this to incompetent managers ? You just can't.

Aviateur86 21st Dec 2020 18:01

Xulu

You couldn't say it better, This is exactly what happened and the future doesn't look brite for them. Low experience, bad english and poor performance have been the cause of many ATC reports in UK and USA, what a shame and to make it worst, they terminated the experienced guys in bulk.

Papa_Golf 22nd Dec 2020 07:59


Originally Posted by Glider7 (Post 10952262)
Why they Let these pilots go and basically keep pilots who literally worked 2-3 monthes for the company.....?

Maybe because QR is one the most badly run organizations on the planet?

Maybe because the offices in T1 T2 and T3 (and the upper floor of QROC too) are almost entirely occupied by incompetent and spineless individuals?

Maybe because after 10 months into the pandemic there's no plan, no direction and no leadership whatsoever shown by the pastry chef?



Birdy1062 22nd Dec 2020 08:12


Originally Posted by Glider7 (Post 10952262)
Why they Let these pilots go and basically keep pilots who literally worked 2-3 monthes for the company.....?

Probably because they’re cheaper.
Plain and simple .....

j.nips 22nd Dec 2020 11:38

Also could be training costs being factored in and recent joiners haven't worked enough yet to justify letting them go?

FlyingAce77 22nd Dec 2020 14:17

Birdy1062

Compromise Safety and Experience with saving $$$$$, it’s plain and simple!

Papa_Golf 22nd Dec 2020 14:41

Company Loss of license insurance is gone too.

What a joke

007busdriver 22nd Dec 2020 14:53

Recently I've been hearing rumors about they'll call back by the beginning of next fall. Anyone heard that too?

Xulu 22nd Dec 2020 19:33

While I expect most to begrudgingly return for licenses/recency, I can imagine many families staying at home this time.

Who wants to go through all this hassle twice again (there and back)?

With the family away, and commuting barely feasible - the horizon shrinks.

The company have burnt bridges. If they had chosen to look after their employees through covid, they would have earned so much respect, loyalty and good will.

Instead, when the industry picks up, churn rate will be huge as people enact their revenge; taking their turn to gleefully stick two fingers up at them.

People are hurt. People want closure on their terms, not the companies.

The ME just wont ever feel like home again.

FlyingAce77 23rd Dec 2020 03:08

I totally agree with you
It is the final nail in the coffin
Bridges have burnt
its matter of time before people start leaving
This is not how Airlines look after their employees, but honestly it is not surprising either.
I predict lots of safety issues now
Lots of ASR be raised
Middle East is not the home anymore!

007busdriver 23rd Dec 2020 07:50

Apparently the idea of "we are a big airline we can always find someone to work for us in our terms" is not gonna work anymore for them..
Obviously they will find people to work for them but only the low qualified desperate ones instead the best..
As a matter of fact may God forbid the safety of operations..

alatriste 23rd Dec 2020 10:32

Just let me tell all of you something: If QR ever call me back most probably I will rejoin. I would like to resume my career and I bet that QR future T&C will be better than the average. Humbly I don´t think I am underqualified or desperate. (21K flight hours, wide body experience, 32 years in the business, no mortgage, some savings, no ex-wifes and grown up children)
The experience was painful for me, now unemployed, but QR is not an NGO. Exit process was not easy, HR Separation was clearly overwhelmed. Everybody left with the owe money. - my previous employer sent home all expats in April with zero compensation no matter the seniority (up to 20 years)-
I joined in 2019, company invested big money in my training and months later I had to leave the company. I was a very cheap Captain and I was fired because somehow the company respect the seniority -as it should be- all guys with less than a year were sent home.
It is crystal clear for me that nowadays we are pilots flying for XXXX airline NOT XXXX pilots anymore. We better change our minds.
Those that disagree, please skip to criticize my English. It is quite normal to be a competent pilot without a level 6 while you can find native English speakers that do not perform that well.

fatbus 23rd Dec 2020 15:22

Better T&C's ? Dream on mate !

alatriste 23rd Dec 2020 17:39

I meant better THAN average not better than before. But it is only my bet.


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