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Fired600 2nd Jan 2021 19:00

Not to mention the 777 guys who were let go as well. People seem to forget there are 2 fleets

glofish 3rd Jan 2021 07:32


Originally Posted by Fired600 (Post 10959296)
Seems strange they prepare to ditch a dozen plus of the aircraft that are fuel efficient and make money whilst increasing the A380 fleet that is all but grounded and looses money. I am not sure of that math either.

The answer is given by TC himself in the interview:

" ... we have these A380s on for long-term debt. That's one thing. What can we do with them, sell them? No, we can't ... / ... If we can activate the A380 fleet, which we have to live with, we got no choice ..."

So here they are. Actually it makes sense to re-use the A380s, the loss is smaller than just scrapping them. It was the same with the Concord, the spare parts contract were long term and operating the expensive bird was in effect cheaper than just paying for unused spare parts.
It is a hefty weight on EK, but if they want to stay in business, they have no choice but to use their expensive birds. Later they can try to replace them with efficient twins as fast as possible.

The famous Triumvirat's heritage! With greetings from Timmy, Adel and Ahmed.

sheikhthecamel 4th Jan 2021 12:03


Originally Posted by glofish (Post 10959526)
The famous Triumvirat's heritage! With greetings from Timmy, Adel and Ahmed.

Its quite a legacy to leave behind, but to be fair they botched their response to an unpredictable and dire situation. Its still a long way off the train wreck up the road that somehow happened while the industry was generally booming. The irony there is that they already did much of their downsizing so the Covid s**t storm was easier to manage.

sheikhthecamel 4th Jan 2021 12:09


Originally Posted by Fired600 (Post 10959324)
Not to mention the 777 guys who were let go as well. People seem to forget there are 2 fleets

Apparently the 777 fleet numbers 150 aircraft. Where are they all flying to/from if the crews are putting in 80 hrs a month? Surely not all routes are open / viable?

I understand there is a lot of cargo moving around, but if the video I saw of the insane queues at DXB on new years eve are anything to go by, then the load factors can't be that bad....

olster 4th Jan 2021 15:06

Lots more back slapping on LinkedIn again folks. Apparently EK is Airline of the year and ‘sir’ TC has been given a lifetime achievement award. I presume that this award did not reflect on industrial issues nor employee relations. Pure comedy gold I would say. Plus lashings of sycophancy on aforementioned LinkedIn post. You really couldn’t make it up.

Fired600 4th Jan 2021 16:22

What’s the award? Most airline redundancies and lives wrecked 2020?

olster 4th Jan 2021 16:34

Pork sword of honour?

Adam Barfy 5th Jan 2021 02:34

Well, there goes the UK passenger traffic for 6 weeks......

fatbus 5th Jan 2021 03:10

As some people thought the UK bubble was going to save EK. Narrow minded thinking I'm afraid. Long haul airlines are years away from a recovery .

Red Hackle 5th Jan 2021 21:35

Adam Barfy

A minimum of 6 weeks with another review then. Wouldn't be surprised if it is a lot longer and towards the Summer.

exekcabincrew 6th Jan 2021 12:34

TC is well known for taking all the credit for the success and evading responsibility for failure. Good results = TCTCTCTCTCTCTC; Bad results = Corona, china, recession, oil is cheap, oil is expensive, challenging macro environment, regulation, etc...

To him, the employees are just peasants that he uses to archive the highest bonus he can squeeze out of this desert.

But then again, didn't most expats come to dxb to get whatever they can out of this place and get the duck out?.. Why should he be any different.

Yarra 7th Jan 2021 18:05

'But then again, didn't most expats come to dxb to get whatever they can out of this place and get the duck out?."

Yes, for me anyway although some others for additional reasons I imagine.
Not so much now of course but earlier years had great opportunities to make the most of a tax free environment and earn a salary that could never be attained south of the equator.

aviation_enthus 9th Jan 2021 02:49

I think this is the same for almost everyone.

But because it was so good for so long ( for example no redundancies in the GFC), complacency set in. The good times were expected to roll on forever. COVID is just a reminder that EK/EY/QR are just like any other expat job. You’ll be the first gone and no such thing as seniority/loyalty.

By all means come and “have some fun in the sun” making some tax free $$$, but never forget the lessons of 2020.

WB1900 9th Jan 2021 05:48

What’s the latest on the following rumor
pilot used the medical benefit - got diagnosed with cancer - and short after shown the path down the exit - is it true?

fatbus 9th Jan 2021 14:10

Not Entirely, factored into overall productivity. Below the line - gone.

Fired600 9th Jan 2021 15:49

I’m shocked that someones productivity would drop due to something as trivial as cancer.

fatbus 9th Jan 2021 23:02

Bean counters run the airline . To them is black and white . All that maters to TC . I know many outstanding individuals that were culled , TC could care less what they did to help the airline in the early days . Absolute shame !

EchoKilla 10th Jan 2021 08:17

Fired600

it’s EK why are you surprised

Emma Royds 11th Jan 2021 20:08


Originally Posted by fatbus (Post 10960782)
As some people thought the UK bubble was going to save EK. Narrow minded thinking I'm afraid. Long haul airlines are years away from a recovery .

The bubble has certainly burst now with the UK ceasing the travel corridor that existed. With immediate effect, all arrivals from the UAE to the UK now must self isolate for ten days unless in a exempt category.


aussiefarmer 13th Jan 2021 17:16

Emirates airline sees full fleet returning to the skies this year

https://www.reuters.com/article/emir...-idUSL8N2JO2Q8


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