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I’m looking for long haul and ultra long haul. I’ve been flying 4 sector days for almost a decade and need a change. I’m under no illusions about how difficult it could become up there but my wife and I have our financial goals set in place and at the moment, EK is our best opportunity. As for the travelling, I was probably a bit eager saying once or twice a month but as long as we can do it every couple of months I know it will keep her happy.
As for schooling, is it hard to get into Kent College as an EK family as the proximity to Meydan South is very appealing.

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Originally Posted by HOOROO (Post 10567083)

Haven’t seen that many rosters but one of them looked like it could be doable with 3 days off afterwards. Again, I’m not going to say otherwise to what you guys are saying, you’re obviously in the know but it’s more of an idealist view that we have before getting up there. I’ve also heard about a no long haul rule for new joiners for the first 6 months after getting checked to line. If this is true and you can’t do long haul, doesn’t that just leave Europe, India and returns?

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Originally Posted by HOOROO (Post 10567090)

I’ve heard the no long haul from a number of different current EK A380 pilots so I tend to think it could be true. Something about needing experience rather than time in the bunk

Commendably you admitted to being a new joiner in your earlier post, and so like most things at EK your friends and colleagues can often guide you in the right direction to find the information or answers you seek. In this case, I suggest you look in section 4.04 of that little book called OM-A, which you will probably be given an electronic copy of before you start at the Training College.
In the good ole' days, printed copies of this manual were everywhere including onboard, but it now changes so frequently it is hard to keep a hard copy current.
That said, if you are undertaking any EK training course printing a hard copy of the current version of OM-A is still worth its weight in gold.

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Originally Posted by fatbus (Post 10570503)

I have seen a very large number of family disasters because of guys not taking the good advice of colleagues in the rejoin . Come but come prepared, meaning make sure your family is fully aware of what they are embarking on . I still know wives afraid to drive , some schools close others an hour drive twice a day . MS 30-40 min drive to the beach if no traffic .
yes you can save !

I totally agree. I am still frequently amazed when speaking to guys and girls on the flight deck that didn't speak to anyone in the company before they applied, considered the recruiting offer, signed their bond, or started training and then wondered why their integration experience was so difficult for the first 12 months.

You guys are all on drugs. Do not come to EK unless you want your health to deteriorate, your marriage to be stressed tested and for you to be in a permanent fog.
A pilot can make more money and work less days and live in a decent country in many more desirable places. Yes EK sucks!

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Originally Posted by LHR Rain (Post 10572149)

SO, why are you there? Where can you make that money as a FO in Europe??

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Originally Posted by LHR Rain (Post 10572149)

A pilot can make more money and work less days and live in a decent country in many more desirable places. Yes EK sucks!

Care to elaborate on where these jobs are

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Originally Posted by HOOROO (Post 10572322)

Care to elaborate on where these jobs are

I would like to know those places as well...

Good afternoon,

I'd like to ask how much time take from the interview to join EK. If they tell you that you are admitted, how many months do you have to wait until being in Dubai? Thanks in advance!!!!!

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Originally Posted by mmmbop (Post 10572467)

I got my life back over 2 years ago, after spending 7 years at EK. Occasionally - very occasionally - I come back here for a ~~laugh~~ read.

Nothing changes. A new set of newbies suspend disbelief in order to ignore advice from the seasoned (that is, stuck [to answer your question flyingvesky] ) EK pilots. There are hundreds of genuine, realistic, emotion-removed posts on here that paint EK life exactly as it is. But you newbies keep ignoring them and mocking the experienced posters.

I still have colleagues flying there, and in the 2 years since I've left the only thing to improve slightly is the flying hours over the last 3-4 months. But as they acknowledge that isn't due to EK listening and reducing the flying, it's due to market forces and EK kidding themselves about their expansion, with troubled times occurring right now so the flying program has dropped. Everything else to do with EK and living in Dubai has worsened.

But still you line up to go there. Unless you have lost your job, or your company is about to go broke, you have no need to even look at EK. And even then there are probably better options. Stand in front of the mirror and slap yourself repeatedly and hard, while chanting "I will not succumb to 'Shiny Jet Syndrome' - it is a life destroyer!"

The grass isn't greener - there is no bloody grass! (And if there is, it's only there due to the human-faeces-riddled water pumped on to it in order to create the illusion that something grows in the Middle East. Pretty apt imagery for the entire place!)

Hypocrisy in its greatest form.

You are actually mocking newbies for joining or wanting to join whilst you point out that newbies mock the experienced players. Personally, I have never mocked anyone on these EK forums as I am trying to decipher what the motivation behind some of these posts could be.

I’m sure you can understand that we are all adults, we are all pilots and we are all capable of making our own decisions for better or for worse.

I’m sure many will look at your post and be nodding their heads and clapping from the sideline about how accurate it is but for those of us who have a genuine interest in joining EK for whatever reason that may be, your post doesn’t come across as genuine when it is filled with the amount of sarcasm and dribble you just wrote about.

You spent 7 years there, I’m sure your provident fund after 7 years would allow you to move on easier than others and that is exactly what my goal is. You are entitled to your opinion as you’ve lived the experience there but maybe just trying to remember what you felt like before you arrived there over 9 years ago and why you applied in the first place would go a long way to understanding why people are still applying.

I'm not an EK guy, the youngsters wanting to understand about money and Dubai and why not never will understand...at some point they may realize better to make half as much at home....hopefully they fill their nosebags and get out before its too late....for you married guys, just imagine your wife doing a stretch in prison because she was raped and reported it...puts things into perspective....it's the dark ages with a chrome veneer, a thin one

Totally agree with 57, for those that know someone or who has had a bad experience themselves truly understand how bad it can go in a minute. Proceed with extreme caution!