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Savings Emirates Dubai FO
Good afternoon,
I'd like to ask how much can you save as a FO at EK. Being single and with the company provided accommodation, per month. Can anyone give me any figures? Thanks in advance. Kind regards, |
The correct question to ask is “Can someone tell me how many hours per year I’ll be locked up in the tube, factorising my hours, while doing ULH and could someone please send me a couple of rosters?” Good luck. CP |
Or perhaps he should be asking himself if he really wants to spend time locked in a tube with precious babies who think their lot in life at EK is so completely unique in the aviation world that they can't be bothered to answer a fairly simple question...?
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How long is a piece of string? Are you out partying and flashing the cash? Do you want a fancy car, the latest and greatest? In which case not much. Are you quiet and retiring, Not into the clubbing scene and an old banger is good enough? Then a lot. You know your spending habits. Dubai is not cheap by any means and has lots of shiny things designed to separate you from your EK paycheck. |
As a near new joiner, I’m also really intrigued by the question of how much can one save up there. My little family and I aren’t flashy but we do have this idea that we will be able to “hop” off to Europe for 3-4 days between my duties or they come on a duty with me to a European destination before my days off and then after I complete the duty I’ll go back and meet them. To those in the know, is this achievable once or twice a month?? |
If you are single and live comfortably but sensibly, then you can easily pocket at least 20K each month.
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Originally Posted by rmcdonal
(Post 10566438)
Little trips like that to EU are going to depend on your fleet. As you can imagine some destinations are popular and others are not... so unless you are in the top 2 bid groups for the month the odds of getting a nice EU trip are minimal. As for days off in a row after, that is luck of the draw, and unlikely to work out for you.
The idea of say doing a trip to Hamburg, dropping off the family, returning to DXB and immediately catching a flight back to Hamburg for 3 days before coming back to DXB is going to be a once or twice in 5 months sort of thing, not monthly. |
Originally Posted by flyingvesky
(Post 10565642)
Good afternoon,
I'd like to ask how much can you save as a FO at EK. Being single and with the company provided accommodation, per month. Can anyone give me any figures? Thanks in advance. Kind regards, |
Originally Posted by HOOROO
(Post 10566397)
As a near new joiner, I’m also really intrigued by the question of how much can one save up there. My little family and I aren’t flashy but we do have this idea that we will be able to “hop” off to Europe for 3-4 days between my duties or they come on a duty with me to a European destination before my days off and then after I complete the duty I’ll go back and meet them. To those in the know, is this achievable once or twice a month?? |
Not to mention having to be acclimated for many of the trips we do. You will manage it once in a blue moon. |
Haven’t seen that many rosters but one of them looked like it could be doable with 3 days off afterwards. Again, I’m not going to say otherwise to what you guys are saying, you’re obviously in the know but it’s more of an idealist view that we have before getting up there. I’ve also heard about a no long haul rule for new joiners for the first 6 months after getting checked to line. If this is true and you can’t do long haul, doesn’t that just leave Europe, India and returns? |
Its the first I have heard of no long haul for 6 months but things change daily. The good thing about the ULR is it uses the hours, if your only doing the short stuff you are working more days. Dont underestimate the tiredness of multiple night turns |
I’ve heard the no long haul from a number of different current EK A380 pilots so I tend to think it could be true. Something about needing experience rather than time in the bunk |
As I say it could be true, I dont keep up with that kind of stuff since doesn’t effect me. Just be realistic with what you will be coming to and what you will leave behind. There is a lot of posts on the pro’s and con’s here. Decide on the general feeling you get from them, remember people dont generally come on website to sing the praise of companies. That said there is much truth in what you read, as I say pro’s and con’s. The destinations are interesting and challenging, so the flying side is good. T&C have slipped a lot the last few years, but ultimately you are joining on the current terms which you have to access yourself. Be aware that things do change here and rapidly at times. The days of pay rises and bonuses have gone and Dubai is an expensive place to live. It isnt easy, you will work incredibly hard and you will be very tired, days off are at a premium. With a family it is hard. Lots of travelling on your days off is unrealistic in my view, on occasion but not often. |
Thanks so much for the quick reply. I've read some threads before but everyone was complaining about the salary. And I thought you cannot save anything there. I'm not a party animal myself, and I'm not going to buy a porsche. Regarding the water and power. Do they pay the bills, don't they? I don't want surprises when I'm over there. A FO told me that his salary was around £5000 pm in 2016. How come has the salary increase so much? Is it £6600 now, isn't? Thanks in advance.
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25k a 30k aed a month. I am surprised. I always imagined EK had too pay much more to attract pilots to the ME. Ok, you get free housing (I do not care much about schooling as most schools in european countries cost next to nothing anyway.) |
Originally Posted by flyingvesky
(Post 10567410)
Thanks so much for the quick reply. I've read some threads before but everyone was complaining about the salary. And I thought you cannot save anything there. I'm not a party animal myself, and I'm not going to buy a porsche. Regarding the water and power. Do they pay the bills, don't they? I don't want surprises when I'm over there. A FO told me that his salary was around £5000 pm in 2016. How come has the salary increase so much? Is it £6600 now, isn't? Thanks in advance.
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Do not come here thinking purely about money. Yes it helps but you’re away from home, away from family and friends and getting time off to go back has been made more problematic by management than it should be, you’re away from your home airlines ie if you ever want to go back you’ll most likely go to bottom of seniority list! it’s not nirvana here, the money should make up for being away from home country, so make sure you think of the big picture (that’s when you take the money blinkers off!) before you think of coming. Young free and single maybe, married with kids think very hard about it!!! You have been warned! |
HOOROO: Try Africa, Asia and the local region as well as Europe and India for non ULR. You will NOT be doing much traveling with the family between flights as you would like to think is possible! |
I have seen a very large number of family disasters because of guys not taking the good advice of colleagues in the rejoin . Come but come prepared, meaning make sure your family is fully aware of what they are embarking on . I still know wives afraid to drive , some schools close others an hour drive twice a day . MS 30-40 min drive to the beach if no traffic . yes you can save ! |
I’m looking for long haul and ultra long haul. I’ve been flying 4 sector days for almost a decade and need a change. I’m under no illusions about how difficult it could become up there but my wife and I have our financial goals set in place and at the moment, EK is our best opportunity. As for the travelling, I was probably a bit eager saying once or twice a month but as long as we can do it every couple of months I know it will keep her happy. As for schooling, is it hard to get into Kent College as an EK family as the proximity to Meydan South is very appealing. |
Originally Posted by HOOROO
(Post 10567083)
Haven’t seen that many rosters but one of them looked like it could be doable with 3 days off afterwards. Again, I’m not going to say otherwise to what you guys are saying, you’re obviously in the know but it’s more of an idealist view that we have before getting up there. I’ve also heard about a no long haul rule for new joiners for the first 6 months after getting checked to line. If this is true and you can’t do long haul, doesn’t that just leave Europe, India and returns?
Originally Posted by HOOROO
(Post 10567090)
I’ve heard the no long haul from a number of different current EK A380 pilots so I tend to think it could be true. Something about needing experience rather than time in the bunk In the good ole' days, printed copies of this manual were everywhere including onboard, but it now changes so frequently it is hard to keep a hard copy current. That said, if you are undertaking any EK training course printing a hard copy of the current version of OM-A is still worth its weight in gold.
Originally Posted by fatbus
(Post 10570503)
I have seen a very large number of family disasters because of guys not taking the good advice of colleagues in the rejoin . Come but come prepared, meaning make sure your family is fully aware of what they are embarking on . I still know wives afraid to drive , some schools close others an hour drive twice a day . MS 30-40 min drive to the beach if no traffic . yes you can save ! |
You guys are all on drugs. Do not come to EK unless you want your health to deteriorate, your marriage to be stressed tested and for you to be in a permanent fog.
A pilot can make more money and work less days and live in a decent country in many more desirable places. Yes EK sucks! |
Originally Posted by LHR Rain
(Post 10572149)
You guys are all on drugs. Do not come to EK unless you want your health to deteriorate, your marriage to be stressed tested and for you to be in a permanent fog.
A pilot can make more money and work less days and live in a decent country in many more desirable places. Yes EK sucks! |
Originally Posted by LHR Rain
(Post 10572149)
A pilot can make more money and work less days and live in a decent country in many more desirable places. Yes EK sucks!
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Originally Posted by HOOROO
(Post 10572322)
Care to elaborate on where these jobs are |
Good afternoon,
I'd like to ask how much time take from the interview to join EK. If they tell you that you are admitted, how many months do you have to wait until being in Dubai? Thanks in advance!!!!! |
Originally Posted by mmmbop
(Post 10572467)
I got my life back over 2 years ago, after spending 7 years at EK. Occasionally - very occasionally - I come back here for a
Nothing changes. A new set of newbies suspend disbelief in order to ignore advice from the seasoned (that is, stuck [to answer your question flyingvesky] ) EK pilots. There are hundreds of genuine, realistic, emotion-removed posts on here that paint EK life exactly as it is. But you newbies keep ignoring them and mocking the experienced posters. I still have colleagues flying there, and in the 2 years since I've left the only thing to improve slightly is the flying hours over the last 3-4 months. But as they acknowledge that isn't due to EK listening and reducing the flying, it's due to market forces and EK kidding themselves about their expansion, with troubled times occurring right now so the flying program has dropped. Everything else to do with EK and living in Dubai has worsened. But still you line up to go there. Unless you have lost your job, or your company is about to go broke, you have no need to even look at EK. And even then there are probably better options. Stand in front of the mirror and slap yourself repeatedly and hard, while chanting "I will not succumb to 'Shiny Jet Syndrome' - it is a life destroyer!" The grass isn't greener - there is no bloody grass! (And if there is, it's only there due to the human-faeces-riddled water pumped on to it in order to create the illusion that something grows in the Middle East. Pretty apt imagery for the entire place!) You are actually mocking newbies for joining or wanting to join whilst you point out that newbies mock the experienced players. Personally, I have never mocked anyone on these EK forums as I am trying to decipher what the motivation behind some of these posts could be. I’m sure you can understand that we are all adults, we are all pilots and we are all capable of making our own decisions for better or for worse. I’m sure many will look at your post and be nodding their heads and clapping from the sideline about how accurate it is but for those of us who have a genuine interest in joining EK for whatever reason that may be, your post doesn’t come across as genuine when it is filled with the amount of sarcasm and dribble you just wrote about. You spent 7 years there, I’m sure your provident fund after 7 years would allow you to move on easier than others and that is exactly what my goal is. You are entitled to your opinion as you’ve lived the experience there but maybe just trying to remember what you felt like before you arrived there over 9 years ago and why you applied in the first place would go a long way to understanding why people are still applying. |
I'm not an EK guy, the youngsters wanting to understand about money and Dubai and why not never will understand...at some point they may realize better to make half as much at home....hopefully they fill their nosebags and get out before its too late....for you married guys, just imagine your wife doing a stretch in prison because she was raped and reported it...puts things into perspective....it's the dark ages with a chrome veneer, a thin one
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Totally agree with 57, for those that know someone or who has had a bad experience themselves truly understand how bad it can go in a minute. Proceed with extreme caution! |
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