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Savings Emirates Dubai FO

Old 9th Sep 2019, 13:17
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Savings Emirates Dubai FO

Good afternoon,

I'd like to ask how much can you save as a FO at EK. Being single and with the company provided accommodation, per month. Can anyone give me any figures? Thanks in advance.

Kind regards,

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Old 9th Sep 2019, 16:49
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The correct question to ask is ďCan someone tell me how many hours per year Iíll be locked up in the tube, factorising my hours, while doing ULH and could someone please send me a couple of rosters?Ē

Good luck.

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Old 9th Sep 2019, 19:01
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Or perhaps he should be asking himself if he really wants to spend time locked in a tube with precious babies who think their lot in life at EK is so completely unique in the aviation world that they can't be bothered to answer a fairly simple question...?
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Old 9th Sep 2019, 20:26
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How long is a piece of string?

Are you out partying and flashing the cash? Do you want a fancy car, the latest and greatest? In which case not much.

Are you quiet and retiring, Not into the clubbing scene and an old banger is good enough? Then a lot.

You know your spending habits. Dubai is not cheap by any means and has lots of shiny things designed to separate you from your EK paycheck.
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Old 10th Sep 2019, 10:49
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As a near new joiner, Iím also really intrigued by the question of how much can one save up there. My little family and I arenít flashy but we do have this idea that we will be able to ďhopĒ off to Europe for 3-4 days between my duties or they come on a duty with me to a European destination before my days off and then after I complete the duty Iíll go back and meet them. To those in the know, is this achievable once or twice a month??
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Old 10th Sep 2019, 14:21
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If you are single and live comfortably but sensibly, then you can easily pocket at least 20K each month.
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Old 10th Sep 2019, 20:39
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Originally Posted by rmcdonal View Post
Little trips like that to EU are going to depend on your fleet. As you can imagine some destinations are popular and others are not... so unless you are in the top 2 bid groups for the month the odds of getting a nice EU trip are minimal. As for days off in a row after, that is luck of the draw, and unlikely to work out for you.
The idea of say doing a trip to Hamburg, dropping off the family, returning to DXB and immediately catching a flight back to Hamburg for 3 days before coming back to DXB is going to be a once or twice in 5 months sort of thing, not monthly.
Thatís a bit of a dream I am afraid
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Old 10th Sep 2019, 22:54
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Originally Posted by flyingvesky View Post
Good afternoon,

I'd like to ask how much can you save as a FO at EK. Being single and with the company provided accommodation, per month. Can anyone give me any figures? Thanks in advance.

Kind regards,

​​
With a normal lifestyle you can easily save 3000Ä -3500Ä net. Single! Dont listen too much to those failed above. Work is hard almost everywhere. Its worth a try, however prepare for hard work.
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Old 10th Sep 2019, 23:15
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Originally Posted by HOOROO View Post
As a near new joiner, Iím also really intrigued by the question of how much can one save up there. My little family and I arenít flashy but we do have this idea that we will be able to ďhopĒ off to Europe for 3-4 days between my duties or they come on a duty with me to a European destination before my days off and then after I complete the duty Iíll go back and meet them. To those in the know, is this achievable once or twice a month??
Have you had a look at a roster for the fleet you are joining? I think what you are proposing is a fantasy. Aside from anything else, trying to recover from the fatigue from your trips. And I stand to be corrected, but I donít believe you would even get enough days off in a row very often, to do what you are proposing.
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Old 11th Sep 2019, 06:22
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Not to mention having to be acclimated for many of the trips we do. You will manage it once in a blue moon.
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Old 11th Sep 2019, 06:45
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Havenít seen that many rosters but one of them looked like it could be doable with 3 days off afterwards. Again, Iím not going to say otherwise to what you guys are saying, youíre obviously in the know but itís more of an idealist view that we have before getting up there.
Iíve also heard about a no long haul rule for new joiners for the first 6 months after getting checked to line. If this is true and you canít do long haul, doesnít that just leave Europe, India and returns?
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Old 11th Sep 2019, 06:52
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Its the first I have heard of no long haul for 6 months but things change daily. The good thing about the ULR is it uses the hours, if your only doing the short stuff you are working more days. Dont underestimate the tiredness of multiple night turns
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Old 11th Sep 2019, 07:01
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Iíve heard the no long haul from a number of different current EK A380 pilots so I tend to think it could be true. Something about needing experience rather than time in the bunk
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Old 11th Sep 2019, 07:16
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As I say it could be true, I dont keep up with that kind of stuff since doesn’t effect me.

Just be realistic with what you will be coming to and what you will leave behind. There is a lot of posts on the pro’s and con’s here. Decide on the general feeling you get from them, remember people dont generally come on website to sing the praise of companies. That said there is much truth in what you read, as I say pro’s and con’s.

The destinations are interesting and challenging, so the flying side is good. T&C have slipped a lot the last few years, but ultimately you are joining on the current terms which you have to access yourself. Be aware that things do change here and rapidly at times. The days of pay rises and bonuses have gone and Dubai is an expensive place to live.

It isnt easy, you will work incredibly hard and you will be very tired, days off are at a premium. With a family it is hard. Lots of travelling on your days off is unrealistic in my view, on occasion but not often.
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Old 11th Sep 2019, 14:11
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Thanks so much for the quick reply. I've read some threads before but everyone was complaining about the salary. And I thought you cannot save anything there. I'm not a party animal myself, and I'm not going to buy a porsche. Regarding the water and power. Do they pay the bills, don't they? I don't want surprises when I'm over there. A FO told me that his salary was around £5000 pm in 2016. How come has the salary increase so much? Is it £6600 now, isn't? Thanks in advance.
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Old 11th Sep 2019, 16:49
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25k a 30k aed a month. I am surprised. I always imagined EK had too pay much more to attract pilots to the ME.
Ok, you get free housing (I do not care much about schooling as most schools in european countries cost next to nothing anyway.)



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Old 11th Sep 2019, 19:03
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Originally Posted by flyingvesky View Post
Thanks so much for the quick reply. I've read some threads before but everyone was complaining about the salary. And I thought you cannot save anything there. I'm not a party animal myself, and I'm not going to buy a porsche. Regarding the water and power. Do they pay the bills, don't they? I don't want surprises when I'm over there. A FO told me that his salary was around £5000 pm in 2016. How come has the salary increase so much? Is it £6600 now, isn't? Thanks in advance.
2016 was the BREXIT referendum. AED is pegged to the USD which is strong at the moment, and the £ has plummeted. I would suggest completing your calculations on a more conservative exchange rate if you're planning on sending money to the UK.
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Old 15th Sep 2019, 07:32
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Exclamation

Do not come here thinking purely about money.
Yes it helps but youíre away from home, away from family and friends and getting time off to go back has been made more problematic by management than it should be, youíre away from your home airlines ie if you ever want to go back youíll most likely go to bottom of seniority list!
itís not nirvana here, the money should make up for being away from home country, so make sure you think of the big picture (thatís when you take the money blinkers off!) before you think of coming.
Young free and single maybe, married with kids think very hard about it!!!
You have been warned!
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Old 15th Sep 2019, 12:07
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HOOROO: Try Africa, Asia and the local region as well as Europe and India for non ULR. You will NOT be doing much traveling with the family between flights as you would like to think is possible!
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Old 15th Sep 2019, 13:57
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I have seen a very large number of family disasters because of guys not taking the good advice of colleagues in the rejoin . Come but come prepared, meaning make sure your family is fully aware of what they are embarking on . I still know wives afraid to drive , some schools close others an hour drive twice a day . MS 30-40 min drive to the beach if no traffic .

yes you can save !

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