I kid you not. Remember that augmenting time not at the controls does not count towards the FTL. So augmenting back from Sydney, for instance, will only get you about 6:30 of time instead of the 14:20 block.

[quote=Fuzuma;10022106]Ok I see, but that's a very optimistic way of working it out.

May I ask those that have where have you gone to. And are you based in your home countries?
Curious as I have some decisions too to make.
Good luck guys

Im back home...and not flying anymore...and loving it.

Well done The Outlaw, the sense of relief and well being will be palpable over the next few weeks and months, its also worth remembering that all the daft errands you get to do are mere reminders of your impending freedom.
It’s over 18 months now since I swapped the slaveship 777 for a 3 on 3 off professional career on a G650.
The kids love being surrounded by normal people with normal attitudes to normal issues, the wife loves being able to do basically anything she needs too with ease, and I enjoy being treated as a valued and respected employee.
EK can burn to the ground for all I care.

Hi Guys, I too have resigned. Can’t sleep anymore, can’t keep up with the daily bombardment of FCI’s. Fear factor and fatigue gone through the roof. Hating going to work these days.
I’ve been so tired sometimes that if anything had gone wrong (mechanically) I don’t know how I would have handled it.

Anyway, best of luck to those that are staying. And to those that are leaving - have the best time EVER !!!!

Wow.......
I know it is probably too much to wish for but I sincerely hope that the top man and AAR reads this.
How sad, that the frontmen of this airline, in such big number, cant wait to get out.

What a legacy he has created. People admitting openly they cried with joy when they left. People saying "well done " to those who have the guts to leave. Unable to recruit ( it seems) for an airline that considers it self "Blue Ribbon" a SVPFO, and airline that used to demand thousands of hours on large jets to join, that now requires someone with a pulse and can recognise a 777 from 50 meters.Bonding FOs for 5 years and then when then when they upgrade, bonded again for another couple of years...what a fcuking mess he has created...but IM sure he sleeps well at night and counts his bonus.

Did my "decade in the dirt"... two weeks until salvation! Good luck to all! Trading my 777 for a "G950":} .. (that would be my golf clubs....) :ok:
FBXL5

In order for him to read this, it would be an admission that he; a) cares and, b) would be willing to accept responsibility for the utter damage he has caused to the brand.

I think we all know that the score is "0" on both counts.

Either way it is irrelevant now as the damage is done. Any change (ha) would have been made a long time ago as has been said before. At this point it does not matter any longer because you cannot change it and despite all the recent (and free) "keep the lines of communication open" rhetoric, in reality they don't value your input and continue to degrade the conditions further.

So again, its not even about them anymore, its about the individual and how much the person is prepared to take.

Sorry guys but the f... muppet AAR is illiterate.

Hi guys, I left as well and could not be happier. I recommend everyone drop their resignation request to flood ops and to get some ones attention. Then those that need to stay can retract it,in the meantime it's the only negotiating play you have in hopes of getting a better contract. All the best..

Can't happen soon enough but I really need a job to go to without any interuption since I have bills to pay.
With the pilot shortage I know it will happen sooner rather than later.
Everyone I talk to that has left has said the same thing. They only wish they could have done it sooner.

That didn't work well in 89.....

Ha Ha. Sadly a large number of EK pilots were not even born by 1989 so would have little knowledge of what you are referring to.

A mass resignation with the intent to withdraw it later would bring out the very worst in EK management. Never underestimate the combination of arrogance, hubris and loss of face. Something like that would backfire horribly. Emirates and it’s owners have very deep pockets when it comes to saving face, just look at how quickly news of all the recent incidents including a spectacular hull loss have disappeared into the ether.

They would rather park aircraft than give in to employee pressure. That you can bet your job on.

I agree, those who remember (or know of) 89 would know that it would never work here and will only make things worse. As it has been said countless times before, things won't change until EK is on the brink of collapse due to crew shortage. For those of us that are still stuck here for a while, all we can do is make the most of the sh*t sandwich and leave at the earliest opportunity. EK management will learn one day when there is no one left to fly their shiney airplanes, but by then it will be too late and I will no longer care or be anywhere near ME :E

Yep forgot about the history of 89. You're right,the management will dismantle the pilot group with a chainsaw with my suggestion of mass resignation letters. Hang in there if you must,get away when you're able I guess is my parting advice. Fly safe guys..
Cheers.

Gone....should have gone sooner
 

Hi guys and girls,

I’ve been gone almost 2years now. A fellow ex EK friend told me about this thread, so I’ll add in my 2 cents.

Congrats to all of you who have left, and congrats to all who are leaving!!

I did almost 8 years on the 330/340, including when it turned into an absolute sh1t show prior to their being parked.

I concur with all of the previous posters. Once you leave, for a flying career or otherwise, you honestly feel like you’re regained control of your life.

The big issue is that it takes leaving to make one realize exactly how poorly you were treated at Emirates. I hazard to guess that the treatment of crews has continued to deteriorate. I no longer read pprune so I’m not au fait with the current goings on.

As for me, my new employer treats me with respect and concern. I’m decently compensated, fairly worked and treated decently, fairly and honestly..3 things EK never did to me.

I wish you all of the best and hope that you can all get out before the day of reckoning comes for Emirates. I don’t care how deep their pockets are, or how much influence has, that day is coming, and woe betide those left there when it happens.

Safe travels all.

SA

What kind of armageddon you expecting?

Bankruptcy? Would have already happened if it was going to...

Accident(s)? Even if it does (hope not) will never lead to shut down...

Banned from USA? Unlikely but survivable...

War? Happened many times, minor speed-bump...

Can't get pilots? Pay raise & other improvements fix it...

Pestilence? Don't think so...

Famine? Park & Shop still open...

Your wishing it on us (with or without justification) doesn't make it so. What are we missing, that would cause your predicted total shut down & massive sorrow for those who remain?

Jeez,

This forum has more ex-EK posters than current posters.......

#breakfreeonceandforall:ok: