Enough...done
 

Feb roster, 93 hours in 28 days, 8 days off, this on top of the 95-100 rosters for the past many months. Not one thing from the bidding system, no leave as per the bid...nothing.

There are at least 30 more reasons but it'll never change here...work till you die or get sick then be replaced.

That does it, resignation submitted. Time to live again.

I'll guess I'm the only one not feeling the love around here anymore!!

That's a lot !!! 777 First officers are flying around 70 it seems.

are you serious Outlaw..have you done it?

Yep. They are getting more than the 90 days notice but thats just to finish up the school year for the kids. June 27 will be the last day. Funny thing, I too was thinking of driving a train or metro but I think I'll take a few months off and enjoy the summer in the ol' country!

I feel like a ton has already been lifted off me. Its taken time to get this into my head of cement but..."this is only a job" (not even a good one anymore), I can't say "this is only a life". The two statements says it all.

Sent you a PM

Congratulates to you. 👍
I’m sure you are doing the right thing.
As someone posted not long ago,
“if things where going to improve around here, they would have done so long ago”

“ Sit under the sun abdicate and be your own king “

a few years back people would congratulate you for joining emirates. These days they pity you, and congratulate when you resign. What a bizarre place this has become.

Me too...my last roster will be march. I lost the faith long time ago, no improvement. And you can feel and hear it everyday...

The Outlaw: Well done you!

For what it's worth, I too had an epiphany wherein I simply couldn't take it anymore (i.e. the airline and / or Dubai). In a career I loved and had worked hard for, I found myself hating going to work (in the sandpit)... and therein one day I handed in my resignation.

I'm pleased to report that I've now got back my aeronautical mojo and am having a blast; though it's admittedly been something of a rollercoaster ride... but what a ride, and I'm loving every minute of it.

Whilst I might occasionally miss the DXB money, I certainly do NOT miss the sandpit (and, that said, the money I get now ain't all that far off - in real terms - what I got in DXB... but the fun factor I'm having now is, well, go figure) !

Once you finally leave and get to kick that UAE sand from off the bottom of your shoes, you'll look back and probably wonder why on earth you ever stayed there so long and to what end ?!

Outlaw,
Great to hear you’re escaping. I made my exit last summer. If you do leave at the end of the school year EK will deduct school fees from your final settlement. School fees are calculated on a 365 day basis from the start of the previous year. Leaving at the beginning of the summer can get expensive if you have more than 1 child in school. I sent the family home at the beginning of the summer and worked until September in order not to leave any $ behind. Best of luck.
CS

Congrats Outlaw,
your biggest regret will be that you didn't leave earlier, welcome to the real world again, life will be good.

I can’t wait to add my name to the list Outlaw created.
I seriously doubt that this was ever “The Best Job in the World” but today it is pretty close to the bottom of the long haul operators. There are numerous other airlines that pay more and work you less to live in a descent country.
Who is going to stick around to shut off the lights?

Welcome to the club Outlaw.

You will spend the rest of your working days floating along, knowing it's coming to an end. Every time you remember that you have pulled the pin, a smile will come to your face and you will immediately get a nice endorphin rush that soon you won't have to put up with any more of their sh!t.... however please be prepared that they will try to give you the death of a thousand paper cuts on your way out by way of the frustrating errands they so love to send one on.

They shafted me right up until the aircraft door closed, I actually cried when the wheels went up. Not because I was going to miss my friends, but because I was finally FREEEEEEEEEEEEEE

And yes it was very bizarre to be congratulated on my last flight for the fact that I was leaving! It's the standard reaction these days "I'm jealous"

best of luck for what comes next!

All,

Thanks for the kind words, encouragement and insight. I actually wasn't aware that some of the names on here had already resigned! The one constant I have observed is that EVERYONE seems to say the same..."Why did I stay as long as I did". I suppose its a testimony to becoming a prisoner of a paycheck. I'm actually grateful to posters such as SOPS as well as others who post here, it makes one aware of how life can be on the outside - thanks!

I already feel that a big weight has been lifted. As for the death by 1000 paper cuts, well they do all that now and for useless reasons. At least these frustrating errands will now have a purpose!

One of my motivators was to get into another job before my age would become prohibitive. Again, there are about 29 more reasons but its all a personal choice. I hope everyone who aspires to move on to other things does so before its too late on a multitude of fronts.

Truth be known it feels nice to have hope and excitement back in my life, who knows what the next adventure will be!

Huh? More like 90!

Well done Outlaw, best of luck for whatever comes next. I am still stuck here for a while waiting for the bucket to fill, but it won't be too much longer......

[QUOTE=sealear;10022042]Huh? More like 90!

Nope he’s right on......did the logbook for 2017 and averaged 72 hours.....taking into account my 42 days of leave

Feel like I’m working too hard. 126 in Jan.

126 ?? Thats crazy, 100 in 28 then another 26 in 3 ??

I kid you not. Remember that augmenting time not at the controls does not count towards the FTL. So augmenting back from Sydney, for instance, will only get you about 6:30 of time instead of the 14:20 block.

[quote=Fuzuma;10022106]Ok I see, but that's a very optimistic way of working it out.

May I ask those that have where have you gone to. And are you based in your home countries?
Curious as I have some decisions too to make.
Good luck guys

Im back home...and not flying anymore...and loving it.

Well done The Outlaw, the sense of relief and well being will be palpable over the next few weeks and months, its also worth remembering that all the daft errands you get to do are mere reminders of your impending freedom.
It’s over 18 months now since I swapped the slaveship 777 for a 3 on 3 off professional career on a G650.
The kids love being surrounded by normal people with normal attitudes to normal issues, the wife loves being able to do basically anything she needs too with ease, and I enjoy being treated as a valued and respected employee.
EK can burn to the ground for all I care.

Hi Guys, I too have resigned. Can’t sleep anymore, can’t keep up with the daily bombardment of FCI’s. Fear factor and fatigue gone through the roof. Hating going to work these days.
I’ve been so tired sometimes that if anything had gone wrong (mechanically) I don’t know how I would have handled it.

Anyway, best of luck to those that are staying. And to those that are leaving - have the best time EVER !!!!

Wow.......
I know it is probably too much to wish for but I sincerely hope that the top man and AAR reads this.
How sad, that the frontmen of this airline, in such big number, cant wait to get out.

What a legacy he has created. People admitting openly they cried with joy when they left. People saying "well done " to those who have the guts to leave. Unable to recruit ( it seems) for an airline that considers it self "Blue Ribbon" a SVPFO, and airline that used to demand thousands of hours on large jets to join, that now requires someone with a pulse and can recognise a 777 from 50 meters.Bonding FOs for 5 years and then when then when they upgrade, bonded again for another couple of years...what a fcuking mess he has created...but IM sure he sleeps well at night and counts his bonus.

Did my "decade in the dirt"... two weeks until salvation! Good luck to all! Trading my 777 for a "G950":} .. (that would be my golf clubs....) :ok:
FBXL5

In order for him to read this, it would be an admission that he; a) cares and, b) would be willing to accept responsibility for the utter damage he has caused to the brand.

I think we all know that the score is "0" on both counts.

Either way it is irrelevant now as the damage is done. Any change (ha) would have been made a long time ago as has been said before. At this point it does not matter any longer because you cannot change it and despite all the recent (and free) "keep the lines of communication open" rhetoric, in reality they don't value your input and continue to degrade the conditions further.

So again, its not even about them anymore, its about the individual and how much the person is prepared to take.

Sorry guys but the f... muppet AAR is illiterate.

Hi guys, I left as well and could not be happier. I recommend everyone drop their resignation request to flood ops and to get some ones attention. Then those that need to stay can retract it,in the meantime it's the only negotiating play you have in hopes of getting a better contract. All the best..

Can't happen soon enough but I really need a job to go to without any interuption since I have bills to pay.
With the pilot shortage I know it will happen sooner rather than later.
Everyone I talk to that has left has said the same thing. They only wish they could have done it sooner.

That didn't work well in 89.....

Ha Ha. Sadly a large number of EK pilots were not even born by 1989 so would have little knowledge of what you are referring to.

A mass resignation with the intent to withdraw it later would bring out the very worst in EK management. Never underestimate the combination of arrogance, hubris and loss of face. Something like that would backfire horribly. Emirates and it’s owners have very deep pockets when it comes to saving face, just look at how quickly news of all the recent incidents including a spectacular hull loss have disappeared into the ether.

They would rather park aircraft than give in to employee pressure. That you can bet your job on.

I agree, those who remember (or know of) 89 would know that it would never work here and will only make things worse. As it has been said countless times before, things won't change until EK is on the brink of collapse due to crew shortage. For those of us that are still stuck here for a while, all we can do is make the most of the sh*t sandwich and leave at the earliest opportunity. EK management will learn one day when there is no one left to fly their shiney airplanes, but by then it will be too late and I will no longer care or be anywhere near ME :E

Yep forgot about the history of 89. You're right,the management will dismantle the pilot group with a chainsaw with my suggestion of mass resignation letters. Hang in there if you must,get away when you're able I guess is my parting advice. Fly safe guys..
Cheers.

Gone....should have gone sooner
 

Hi guys and girls,

I’ve been gone almost 2years now. A fellow ex EK friend told me about this thread, so I’ll add in my 2 cents.

Congrats to all of you who have left, and congrats to all who are leaving!!

I did almost 8 years on the 330/340, including when it turned into an absolute sh1t show prior to their being parked.

I concur with all of the previous posters. Once you leave, for a flying career or otherwise, you honestly feel like you’re regained control of your life.

The big issue is that it takes leaving to make one realize exactly how poorly you were treated at Emirates. I hazard to guess that the treatment of crews has continued to deteriorate. I no longer read pprune so I’m not au fait with the current goings on.

As for me, my new employer treats me with respect and concern. I’m decently compensated, fairly worked and treated decently, fairly and honestly..3 things EK never did to me.

I wish you all of the best and hope that you can all get out before the day of reckoning comes for Emirates. I don’t care how deep their pockets are, or how much influence has, that day is coming, and woe betide those left there when it happens.

Safe travels all.

SA

What kind of armageddon you expecting?

Bankruptcy? Would have already happened if it was going to...

Accident(s)? Even if it does (hope not) will never lead to shut down...

Banned from USA? Unlikely but survivable...

War? Happened many times, minor speed-bump...

Can't get pilots? Pay raise & other improvements fix it...

Pestilence? Don't think so...

Famine? Park & Shop still open...

Your wishing it on us (with or without justification) doesn't make it so. What are we missing, that would cause your predicted total shut down & massive sorrow for those who remain?

Jeez,

This forum has more ex-EK posters than current posters.......

#breakfreeonceandforall:ok: