What happened in Cochin?

Exactly, “what do you know”
The problem here is that nothing is in black and white.
We can hope, think and believe whatever we like until that day when we find out.
You can always assume that everything is going to be sweet just because you think that they always paid out the A contribution.
Well guess what, one day they might decide not to. And that may be your life saving gone.

There was also the Joburg accident after which the captain (RIP) and FO were sacked then later unsacked but kept off roster for a considerable period of time. Does that count?

Also in Africa, the two guys who flew over the palace and made a bit of noise. Can't remember which city now. I think they were possibly also sacked then unsacked.

The "DEC Graveyard" claimed a few scalps too and not just DECs.

What is this 'DEC Graveyard' please?

On one of my last flights JAA, I flew with the Captain on that African Palace flight. He had been "sacked", but then sent on "leave" asked to come back and was "unsacked" and demoted to an FO. Don't know about the other crew members fate.

Not that I recall... Fired and unfired yes but not demoted.

However JJ, of JNB, was demoted for six months after being unfired many months after the event...

One early DEC nearly flew into the Ngorongoro Hills near Nairobi (a very close shave) and was rightly let go IMHO.

Well, I stand to be corrected. That is the story he told me.

Accra FO kept flying
 

But left to another airline in his home country ASAP as he was told that he would never be offered a command in EK.

Damascus = Graveyard ... must be somewhere else now, or anywhere else judging by recent events .

So, after 3 pages it's just another airline operation in a third world country.

lol.

I know of some great Cabin Crew firings, my favorite is probably the Purser who attacked the Captain while in the Flight Deck just a few months ago. Why haven't I seen anything posted about that incident?

EK safest Airline 2017
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:p:p

Well we know where more EK sponsorship dollars go then don't we?

Further to that, as I recall they were promptly sacked presumably because the result of the as yet incomplete investigation was in no doubt. Then, following the full page advertisement in F.I. by Airbus distancing themselves from the event and the 'training' on the 343 leading up to it, cooler heads prevailed and the pilots were unsacked. They then sat on the bench while awaiting the result of the investigation.

Interestingly, that issue of F.I. wasn't long on the shelves in this town. I still have mine somewhere.

SOPs! How's the train driving going?

A little was but, curiously, ranks closed over it and that was it

EK? Safest? How?? I mean with how many 'incidents' in the last few months... it must be like their 'Airline of Year' Award they got some year.... in July :ugh:

Shukran, Maggot, I know of one CC who had the details and was willing to spill after their trip but curiously after a 'routine' visit to HQ clammed up on the matter. Surprise.

I also wonder whatever happened to the purser who supposedly got arrested over the CHML or some such.

Then of course there's the ex-CC who allegedly wore her old uniform into the cockpit to take selfies and sit around for a half hour...

And 'EK Standards: Chapter 2: Moet Edition' (although she was fired and he wasn't)

Anything on those???

lol, Moet Edition. Wasn't that at the Manchester Marriott?

The Moët was in Glasgow. You can see that straight away from the bathroom layout. The champagne was also Piper-Heidsick actually, not Moët.

Yes, it’s sad that I noted that much detail but I’m obviously a movie buff ;-)

Don’t forget Manchester.

Capt champagne didn't get fired? Of all these maybe he should be in the clink

It wasn’t a Captain in the champagne in the bath incident. It was a Moldovan girl filmed by a male Brazilian GR1 (who incidentally was married to another crew member). He shared the video with friends who posted it on social media.

Whilst it was a horrible thing to do to the girl who wasn’t aware it would be posted, she must accept that when you take a bottle of champers from Biz Class and let someone film you in the bath inserting said bottle in the holiest of holes whilst saying “thank you emirates for this champagne” and naming your employers - it’s sort of hard to argue innocence.

:D"The holiest of holes"...now thats funny,

And all of those that shared it!

Yeah but that isn't nearly so catchy :}

What happened in Cochin?

I think it was the incident where 2 fools almost stalled a jet because they had set the HDG Bug 180 degrees the wrong way for take off......:ugh::ugh::ugh:

HDG bug 180 degrees the wrong way caused the airplane to almost stall? What happened? They try an Immelmann?

Thank God there was no such thing as selfies or social media back in the 70's/80's or there wouldn't be anyone left flying for BOAC/BEA.

Do you play spin the bottle of blind man's muff on layovers these days?

actually she said the F-Word about her valued Employer.

But still a classic video, let’s wait and see what the new seasons will bring.

yahhhh....used to be fun didnt it?

Yep, all good fun back in the day.

I can see how a certain amount of common sense has had to be applied to some of the more 'exotic' practices but I do feel the pendulum has swung back way too far in the other direction.

We live our professional lives now treading on eggshells, being super mindful of everything we say and do lest some uber sensitive poor soul might, god forbid, be offended and leap on the opportunity to report us. In the process, it has taken away most of the reasons I joined this industry and I really can't wait for the day when I can put the sad state this industry has descended into, behind me.

The frustrating thing is that 99.9% of the people I fly with are all great and would, I am sure, have fitted right in, 'back in the day.' But, we are, as is usual nowadays, running scared of the politically correct minority. And I don't think the world is a better place today than it was 40 years ago, despite all this political correctness.

Maybe one day, genuine common sense, airmanship, manners, courtesy, respect and fun etc will come back in fashion.

Or maybe I have just turned into a grumpy old man!

You should come and my new work place...I don't think they have heard of "PC"....even I was shocked when I started..but do we have some interesting conversations!!

Is anybody going to answer this or is secrecy more important than safety?

I know all about it because I'm a stakeholder but since it's none of your business I'm going to go with secrecy.

Err.. isn't 'Spin the bottle' a game we used to play when we were, like, eleven?

Sounds like the latest version is more fun.

It was and what went on in room parties stayed in room parties, that's the difference between then and now.

Ummm..this game had a bottle....not too sure how much "spinning" was involved.:E

So what happened��

good one SOPS, I almost fell off my chair