Where did all the applications go?
 

At my wash up 1 year ago, the HR 'lady' told us there was no need for road shows as there were (quote) thousands of high quality applications on file, with many arriving daily.

So, in light of the ever present banner ad, advising of road shows lasting for over a week in India, The Neterlands and the USA, I have to ask, where did all the applicants go?

They are enjoying their last days of leave and days off without being completely shattered before joining EK.

Because all of them have read pprune, they know that they will not be able to have a regular life and a hard time to travel back to see their families and friends, they accumulate such experiences beforehand.

But they have made up their minds and with that well informed and pprune sharpened opinion they still decided to join EK, and are sure they will never regret their decision or rant about it later.

Just wait for their applications, they will trickle in in abundance after the announcement of the expected huge profit share this year!

HR told me.

Twenty weeks & 20%, I heard.

I hope that's true for your sake, Junglie Driver.:ok:

As far as the road show in india, majority turned out. 12 to 19 /20 per day.
They seem to be desperate now. Most of the applicants have signed up a non reducing bond with a promising blue carrier. They pay more than EK (on Left seat) and have varieties of contract like 15 on 15 off/ 45hr/ 80hrs/ 1 on 1 off etc. Many of the guys who gave PSP wont be joining them due to the bond.


Apart from this, At EK , 92hrs a month with no overtime !!! sounds crazy. QR I believe starts OT at 75?

Even the UAE neighbour down the road has overtime based on 75hrs, although factored across 2 months, i.e. you need to exceed 150hrs in 2 months. At least that's how I understand it.

flyboy did you attend a roadshow in India?

Promising blue carrier???
Can you please explain?

I think he means INDIGO

"At my wash up 1 year ago, the HR 'lady' told us"

Was that the dark-haired limey 'lady' with the saggy boobs who stood there with her arms crossed (holding up her saggy boobs) and a sour look on it's face the whole time, and only (nearly) smiled when it had bad news to deliver? Had that one once and only heard lies and bad news. That's the good thing about doing the free ground school on Fridays - no lies from management, just go home early. Their BS is so important they cannot be bothered showing up on the weekend.

Just listen to yourself for one second...

So they have stopped overtime payments and in lieu are making large profit sharing payments. Therefore you are forced to fly for good money. Not as bad as I was thinking. I'd prefer to have the option of flying above 78 hours or not though.

What huge profit sharing???

Just for info, I did my assessment in DXB recently. Most of the guys attending were called within a week of applying, some of them even said two days...

So yes... they are desperate.

Polax

Sorry, what airline is it you're talking about there? Are they recruiting?

The saggy boobs comment! Just had me laugh.
I would never talk like that, but this is some description you are giving!
:D

Profit share? What's that?

Well not so long but just 3 months ago people who are really qualified all failed on the last day. They could pass through the sim and all kinds of testing, all failed on the last day either on the psychologist or the group assessment. As they don't give you any sort of feedback you never know, however there were really solid pilots among them. One group have joined the assessments with 10 people and all failed(different backgrounds, including turkish, french and dutch). Another group of 8 attended of highly qualified ones including some friends(engineers and ATC included), all failed except one, who was carrying an Australian passport and a lot of hours on a widebody airbus.
Now EK will come to a certain point, they will start hiring anyone whoever attends to the assessments regardless of their quality and experience. Besides they will never call back the pilots for rescheduling in 2 years, whom they have failed for nothing imho.
How is this fair?

Not sure what you are saying foswillrule. Are you saying that it is unfair that EK doesn't hire people who don't make the standard?
Lets hope they don't need to drop the standard I the future.

donpizmeov, i certainly am not complaining about that.
I mean that imho i do believe most of the guys i know were really fitting the standarts of a major flag carrier airline. However for some reason they have been eliminated on the last day of assessments. Most of them have joined to QR and EY. Now what i mean is "was the other companies wrong and EK was right?". Because they are pretty successful and stable guys, also have a really good level of both technical and practical knowledge(CRM, decision making with the help of inputs) have been eliminated, and if i know the true mentality of EK, instead of calling those guys back and making another objective assessment on them, they would rather lower their limits.
If they don't meet the standarts, they don't meet the standarts. But in this case the question raises; what are the standarts of EK concluding the technical knowledge, simulator success(with the type they haven't flown before) and practical thinking style? Because they have all passed those phases on the first day of assessments.