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haveago 21st Mar 2015 05:56

How many Pilots have left/Leaving Emirates
 
Do you know anyone who has left? What is the attrition rate at the moment? Emirates are desperately short of pilots on all Fleets. Rumour control, some flights have been cancelled as result of crew shortage and 5 380s going for "maintenance" GROUNDED as result of Captain shortage.
Interesting times!!

Rather Be Skiing 21st Mar 2015 06:19

Recently flew with a 4 year F/O who is leaving. Well, left now I guess. Heading back to his old outfit in the U.K. Not Ryanair!

Even being this close to his upgrade wasn't enough to keep him here.

Lifestyle issues and an inhuman corporate culture. On paper, easily fixable issues but not likely with the management in place here, now. Sad state, really.

flaphandlemover 21st Mar 2015 06:38

One guy just didn't come back from vacation...
Other one had his last flight with me...
Met another one in HR who is on his way out...
On the washup the Hr lady was lying to us that the the attrition rate is only constant 2,2-2,7%😄😄 and we have no problem with recruiting.
Guys from recruitment said they have app 5 applications a day. (In old days it was 75). These guys are going to the office
to pray that they at least can call someone as there are applicants with a total of 300h on B737.
Good times ahead. Come to Ek the best company in the ME.(NOT)
Overtaken by all other airlines around...
Well done management..

I once was proud to work for EK.... This has been taken care of by the management. Thank you...

The Outlaw 21st Mar 2015 07:01

Don't hold your breath for change...will never happen until one of the top 2 in the company clean the house.

Rather Be Skiing 21st Mar 2015 08:21


Originally Posted by The Outlaw (Post 8909926)
Don't hold your breath for change...will never happen until one of the top 2 in the company clean the house.

Actually, I think the top needs to change if there is to be as big a culture shift as is needed. TC has done the job of building the business/commercial side of the airline. Now we need someone at the helm that has the strength of conviction to address the human resource side of the company.

Trader 21st Mar 2015 08:45

They are saying attrition is less than 2%. Apparently, anyone who is over 50 and leaves is considered to be 'retiring' and not included in those numbers!

Wash ups recently pilots are being told that the flying is increasing and to expect 95-100 hours per month for at least a year. All while while HR maintains no one is leaving and hiring is not an issue (though fleet is admitting it is short and no one is coming).

EVERYONE is hiring now in the ME, Asia, Turkey, Asia......

Kapitanleutnant 21st Mar 2015 09:47

There had to be some type of twist to the numbers, Trader! Good info on guys over 50 NOT being counted among the constant mantra we hear…. "ever steady 1.5 to 2%".

Could never understand that "fuzzy math" HR Lady would tell us all when we all knew there are a lot more leaving today than say 3 years ago… when we were all still being told at that time the attrition numbers were, "ever steady 1.5 to 2%".

K

Mister Warning 21st Mar 2015 09:56

It saddens me to say that Emirates has become like buying a leaky boat - your happiest days are the first, and the last. :(

6000PIC 21st Mar 2015 10:59

Some very basic research tells anyone even remotely interested in applying for a flight crew position with EK , that to do so would be foolish if not just a big mistake. Tough times ahead for EK. Then again , is anyone suprised ?

fireball_23 21st Mar 2015 13:18

Well, I guess people are still attracted. A lot of pilots in my airline are dreaming of EK. They just request to many hours for them right now..

flareflyer 21st Mar 2015 13:31

Fireball can you please tell us where your airline is based?

fireball_23 21st Mar 2015 14:21

In Panama ! And I know a bunch of pilots in Avianca dying to go to EK as well. I believe people need to find by themselves

misd-agin 21st Mar 2015 15:42

Does EK have a seniority list? The advancement by the junior guy would provide the actual number of people leaving.


Or, like in Chicago voting, do they kept people on the list after they no longer exist?

tom330 21st Mar 2015 15:55

It's not so bad at EK. Do you really work for them? I'm getting much better the pay I had with my previous employer and I get to fly better jets. You need to appreciate what you have if not, show the company and leave. Don't stay and nag. I know so many that are eagerly waiting for their hours to make the move to EK.

misd-agin 21st Mar 2015 16:11

What was your previous job and pay?

Buford 21st Mar 2015 16:50

Wait for the kids, Tom, wait for the kids. I see you are married and without kids...enjoy the extra income while you can.

flaphandlemover 21st Mar 2015 17:18

Thom,

you might want to take off the pink goggles...

It takes about 4 Years to realise how much you have already lost from the contract you have signed...(lets call the useless paper a contract).

But I am sure EK needs you to promote paradise... as you must be one of the few that still considers this outfit worth promoting.... Najum is yours.... for sure..

Am NOT Sure 21st Mar 2015 20:24

Tom330

You are right .. What were we thinking ..the whole lot of us

Maybe with total submission our T&C will improve ?

Tom get off the Xanax please

SOPS 21st Mar 2015 20:52

Thanks for the advice Tommy, I am leaving...in 4 days. As some one else said...time to take off your pink goggles.

Smoothflight 21st Mar 2015 21:48

How many Pilots have left/Leaving Emirates
 
Guys listen. I have flown for a European carrier before. At EK so far I am happy. Maybe in a year I Will be unhappy. In my twenty five years of flying I have learned one thing. Management is the worst pilots enemy. When the times comes and iT sucks at the current employer , I will simply move on to greener postures.


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