I was offered "a trip of my choice" as my last trip... but not for a whole month. Wow, is EK starting to soften up a bit? Naaahhhh...... :-)

K

Mr Good Cat
"I think someone is pulling your leg my friend. Not sure anyone over there really wants you to convert to Islam in a city where most of the local men drink alcohol and visit prostitutes."

Factually incorrect Mr. Good Cat. That's a similar mindset to the MMD. It's unfair to simplify something, which for many westerners is beyond imagination, as the religion is the core of the law and the culture.
I was always surprised by how little knowledge people who lived there had of the law, and how easily they could find themselves in jail.
An important part of the religion is to convert non believers - numbers are everything and it accelerates the converter's path to paradise. Thus the law in so many of these countries, proscribing death or severe penalty for leaving the religion.
It's also incorrect to label all locals as you have. There are many who have a genuine belief in that way of life, and who don't partake in the activities you mention.
I believe new CC are still subject to a tour of the city's cultural highlights, including a visit to a mosque, where a western convert talks up the religion and suggests it strongly as a way of life. I can remember being told of this by CC. The GN newspaper used to have an annual boast of how many 'embraced' the religion. Never mentioning those forced to do so by the law as a result of marriage. This is a society, and company, in which those belonging to that religion are treated far more favourably than non believers.
I'm not arguing your other points, but it's best to be factual.

Sonoma, what rock did you crawl out from? Utter and complete BS of a post.

I actually said most not all, but I agree it was a bit flippant so let's say a significant amount rather than most which I agree is unfair and I apologise.

Just like anyone who has joined a club and likes to recommend it to others. Catholicism, Scientology, EPC, AmWay, The Sailing Club etc etc all do their best to sell themselves, but never seen any pressure put on others to join... Except for this one venture that promised miraculous returns on an investment of 20,000USD. I believe that a fair few CC and pilots were converted that one.

The only westerner I ever witnessed convert to Islam started wearing a Kandora and handing out warning letters from behind the desk of the CP Boeing Fleet. Think it didn't last that long before he was caught with his religious contemporaries paying for services at the York Hotel...? mmmm...

Mr. Good Cat. I don't want to labour a point, which is insignificant to most people.
However, the religion in that part of the world is a state controlled entity. It is an integral part of the society - it is the legal system, and it is an effective means of controlling people. To compare it to other religions is to show it a lack of understanding. You need only look at what happens to those who try to leave it. Are you aware that you can have your jail sentence reduced and often suspended if you convert. Many of those who have worked, and still work there, can tell you of people who behave in the way you mention - booze etc., but come ramadan, they fast, abstain from carnal activities, adhere strictly to iftar timings, and play the game. Makes no moral sense to most of us, and we tend to see things morally. If you look at it through a western lens, a lot of the behaviour will never make sense - that is probably why the west will never understand their culture enough to integrate them.

Originally posted by 'vfenext'. Quote, 'Sonoma, what rock did you crawl out from? Utter and complete BS of a post.'

Your one liner was derogatory, but devoid of any factual rebuttal. Why not give a reason for your nasty remark? Correct me if you think I'm wrong, but at least have something constructive to say.
What I stated above is based on personal experience and that of people I know. Most of the ‘locals’ I worked with were lovely people and loyal to the principles of their culture. There were others from around the region with whom I worked, who followed the practices I mention above.
In free cultures we back up our positions with facts. You seem to make it a habit to be abusive to posters with whom you disagree, and usually without taking a position on the topic.

Emirates flight attendant was asked for sex in exchange for better roster?
 

Emirates flight attendant was asked for sex in exchange for better roster

https://donotflyemirates.wordpress.c...better-roster/

I was desperate for a better roster, but no one asked me for sex.

No equal opportunities at EK.

ZEDs after retirement
 

If one leaves the company prior to "normal retirement age" the retiree TRIPS page offers SRCs only. Once one crosses normal retirement age one should expect to be able to book ZEDs. Does anyone have any experience with that transition? Does a tab making ZEDs available magically appear in TRIPS after your landmark birthday or did you have to make application in order for ZEDs to become available?

Repatriation Cargo
 

Any advise with repatriation cargo allowance and procedure?

Brought some stuff by air +13y ago and need to take some stuff back.

Who pays for it?

Should I use discounted freight before handing in my resignation instead?

Not exactly on EK network but 30min flight time from one.

Thanks

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You can use your EK discounted freight allowance up to one month after your last day in the company.
No need to book it before you have resigned.

Quick question regarding Criminal Record Check/Letter of good conduct for UK.

Do you have have to name the organisation thats doing the background check on behalf of the airline you're joining or nominate the airline itself?

Thank you

Sounds like "Alternative Facts" off some right wing fake news website.

Can anyone enlighten me on potential pitfalls of getting your provident fund check on your last day rather than having the company bank wire the money after you've left? I see that others have taken the check and cashed it at the bank in EGHQ and then wire the money themselves. I've never once cashed a check in the UAE so am unsure of the process. Can someone tell me what personal ID they'll need to see to cash a check, particularly at a bank that isn't (and never was) my own bank. I'm a little uncertain what documents I'll still have in my possession at this point in the process. I could envision a real Dubai experience of trying to cash a check using a UAE ID that I no longer possess, a passport turned in for processing, and my repatriation airplane warming up on the ramp without me in it.....

Buford,
I opened an US dollar account, took the cheque and transferred it to the account otherwise they rip you off with the exchange rate.
My redemption money I received 7 or 8 months later after a zillion of emails.

Update on the "letter of good conduct" I went to Port Rashid police station, no queues, very friendly and efficient lady, 220Aed, picture was not required as they had one on file (not sure how).
The lady said I would receive the letter via email the next day, it was in my "inbox" 2 hours later.
As simple as that...

Good conduct letters can be done online as well, at least the Arabic version not sure if this is true for letters in other languages..

I'm sure they will, but at what rate do they charge you if you take your leave balance early in the year and then resign. I assume they'll want to be reimbursed.

Family Visas
 

Canceling the family Visas is a most? For example EOSB/PF payout?

If leaving before the school year, can family stay behind to finish school year?

Thanks.

Whairdhugo,

You must be one of the rare person to hand in your resignation with a negative leave balance ;-)
In answer to your question, I would imagine that its calculated at the same rate as cashing leave in
i.e.: basic monthly salary x 12 divided by 365 equals your daily rate x amount of days you owe them?

STD, your dependants visa are linked to your visa, if your visa is cancelled so is theirs, they would have to stay on a visit visa and do a visa run every so often...

Spring,

Yeh, part luck, part spite, and a dash of their "brilliance".

Thanks for the answer.

14y and desperate, does it make any sense to wait till 15y and get "the" tickets, other airlines have staff travel so I guess I just answered my question.

Just want the opinion of the guys who left and got them or the ones who left just about and didn't get them.

Have heard that our beloved is not very good honouring the SRCs too, any experiences.

STD

Sorry I can't really shed any light on your exact situation but just to add another query on the same subject.

What happens to guys who stay the 15yrs but don't meet the minimum age requirement (50 I believe?) when they leave? Is it as I assume in that you are sh*t out of luck or do you get the tickets once you reach the required age?

Do 15 years and leave before you get within 10 years of your nominated retirement date and you'll get 4x SRC's per year for life. 2 standby and 2 confirmed. If you leave within 10 years of your retirement date, in addition to those SRC's you'll get 8 Cat A or C tickets, plus retiree privileges on qualifying airlines when you reach said retirement age.

Ok, seems fair enough then. Thanks for the info :ok:

the tickets are not worth it at all, I have them and the seniority drops to basically zero, you wont get on, the confirmed ones you can't book because the load forecast already a few months earlier is too high, I wished I had not waited for them and left earlier. Every other airlines gives you tickets on other airlines too, in EK you get them after you turn 65 if you make it.

I wouldn't bank on those tickets and keep working just for it. EK has a track record of changing benefits to their liking whenever it suits them.

Just an FYI - if you go to TRIPS and click on the tab in options box at bottom - OTHER AIRLINE INFO.

At the bottom of that page click on "Ticketing Methods - Matrix Overview" - it lists every airline and shows which are ZED & which are MyIdtravel. You can click on each airline on that pop up page and it tells you what you are entitled to - retirees etc (vast majority accept retirees on MyD/ZED). Also handy for finding out if your 'target employer' is a participant.

Notably missing are the Chinese airlines & Euro ULCCs from ZED & MyID.

In other words if you're close to getting the 15 yr benefits (10 for some) with EK and are heading to China/FR/EZ etc - it might be worth stalling so as to have some industry benefits.

If going to a listed airline, makes little difference.


Open to correction

Thanks guys ;)

STD

Filion:

Are you perhaps over 60? I left with the required service length but I am under 60. There is no "other airline info" tab that I can see anywhere on TRIPS at the moment. I can only access EK flights now but I have been given the impression that "other airline" access will appear on TRIPS once I hit 60.

This access is eagerly anticipated for the reasons you mention so it would be interesting to see if anyone here has experienced what I am describing.

No Dropp, under 60 and currently employed.

Interested to know if 'OAL' only kicks in when 60.

I can't tell you if it kicks in at 60 (yet) but I can tell you it isn't there once you leave if you are under 60. Watch this space.

Is the 'MyIDTravel' tab there - which is separate within that box?

According to Staff Travel manual section C25 you are eligible however the note on pg 6 of 14 in section 5.1 is very confusing.

No, the ZED (flyZed?) tab disappears (I believe it used to sit under "online check-in") and you have no access to anything other than LS tickets until you reach "normal retirement age". This age is different for some individuals depending on your date of joining.

All relevent EK benefits apply depending on length of service 15 yrs or 10 and within 10 of your normal retirement age (60 if DOJ before Feb 07 from memory, 65 after). If you leave meeting the 15 year requirement then the OAL kicks in AT your NRA e.g. leave at 53-EK benefits only until 60, then EK and OAL. Your kids able to use EK benefits until their 23rd birthday.

Ok

So if you got hired after 7/2/07 & you are 15 & 55, you wait for OAL until 65.
If 10 & 50 before 7/2/07 you wait until 60.

With above, EK benefits apply with the in-between years

Fair enough?

Not quite. Up to 1996'ish = 45/55. Up to 07/02/07 = 50/60, after = 55/65. I think.

I've heard that the Dubai Police 'Good Conduct Certificate' can be done in one day now. Has anyone done it at the Bur Dubai or Al Basha Police Stations rather than the Al Twar (Sharjah Road) one? Alternatively, has anyone had success with the 'on-line' method? I'm "struggling" to find the 'MyID' login as I suspect it's an APP for mobile.

I think I've answered some of this myself: https://www.dubaipolice.gov.ae/wps/p...uctcertificate

Let's see how this pans out.

NAT,

I went to Port Rashid police station to get mine, the whole thing was done in 5 mins, very helpful lady at the desk. Cost Aed200, she said I would receive it via email the next day but I get it a couple of hours later.

Very straight forward process like pretty much the rest of the leaving process so far.

Rgds Bokkie

Nat

I did mine online, very quick, you then get a text later saying you need to go to the nearest police station to verify identity.

Turned up at Al Barsha station just of Hessa street, got a que ticket number, and within 1 minute of seeing the guy behind the desk he says all done, you should get it in email either that day or the next.

Think it was 220 total online

Springbok/Crash,

Thanks. The Port Rashid seems like the one I should have embarked upon. The trouble really is that, from my experience here, the outcomes of almost identical processing can be very different depending on who processes you that day.

I actually did the same process as you Crash; online AED220 then to Al Basha, it being quiet in comparison with other Police Stations, and had a reassurance that the email with the letter had been sent.

Still waiting.

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Ah, found out that they do not like 'To whom this may concern'. My bad.