EK BONUS!!
 

I just heard from a wery reliable source about the bonus..

EK is going to "Bone" us for the next year!!

Ha ha, lighten up bitches and get going on that extra mile.

Yes I am 17 years old

Nah, we'll get a profit share this year and pay rise. Target 4.255B, made 2.2B in first half, traditionally second half better than first.

Used to be in the no expectations can't be hurt camp. Now in the don't ask, don't get and have you seen the Meydan villas, if they don't give a pay rise no one will come camp!

10 weeks and 3+5%

Lowstandard...what have you been svsdfghsdtq:confused::confused::confused: lately :}:}:}

This year like all the next ones, NO BONUS and 0.5% pay rise ( eventually) cause we have been working very hard, have we....:eek::eek:

Hairpin splitting hairs? I'll take a 10 week profit share or bonus!

Call it a profit share, bonus, extra, whatever you want… …I just want to be paid accordingly..

Bonus?
 

There will never, ever, ever be another bonus or profit share, call it what you will, for flight deck crew at EK. Get used to it.

Don't forget certain 'people' get a bonus by making sure 'we' don't get a profit share.

There is a big difference btetween profit share and bonus, just ask any VP.

I flew with a SFS, who flew with a purser, who flew with a local Captain, who knows a secretary,...... Big Bonus this year.

Motivation nowadays is at an all-time low.

I believe there will be a bonus, because is the cheapest way to pretend that they care about us.

Pay rise is much more expensive in the long term.

Just imagine the "80 day runway closure hell" without bonus, pay rise and utilities allowance change. I don't think they want to explore that option.

Bonus update! Real facts
 

I am told by a real source 5 times last year's bonus!

Hairpin,
You are half right....it is not a bonus, but it is totally discretionary!!
Have a look on the portal under Employee Centre > Profit Share, and I think the same wording is used on page 2 of your contract.
Personally, I know it has been a good year, load factors have been unbelievable, and so I'm betting on 10 weeks but won't spend a cent until it appears in my account.....:suspect::suspect::suspect:

In the statement above, last words. "as appropriate". I would appreciate someone enlighten me as to what the conditions for appropriate are. It must be true that it is either a very big book of excuses or a fag packet document stating "because we dont care".

creative accounting are the words...:ugh::ugh:

M Crit,

We all know what creative accounting is, but that still does not answer the question of what is considered to be "appropriate"?

Now that EK are buying their own aircraft and not leasing them (several a380s now have "Owned by Emirates") this does mean that the money is being reduced into operating costs alot more than times of old. The continued sponsorships from Grand Prix, cricket, Arsenal, sailing to mention a few has a very high hit on the "profit" margin the company makes.

A few quotes to end the post......


How it is:

When morality comes up against profit, it is seldom that profit loses.

Does this sound familiar:

Greed's worst point is its ingratitude

And for those who can accept their fate:

It is not the man who has little, but he who desires more, that is poor.

IATA: Middle East forecast to reach record profits in 2014 | CAPA - Centre for Aviation

Record profits for the ME Carriers ........ And you think profit share will occur !!! LOL people - no one in EK complains

There is a reason why the Chinese pay so much... they can't get enough pilots. EK doesn't have that problem... so why should they pay any more than absolute minimum necessary to keep attrition at an acceptable level?

As long as there's a line of Europeans and OZ's trampling over each other to come here, there is absolutely no reason for anything to improve.

Thanks Alan!

EK BONUS!!
 

Our profit share has just been confirmed!!!

4 crew Turnarounds.... :mad::mad::mad:

(Edited for accurate emoticon)

Seems the glow has worn off. Do y'all still announce yourselves as "THE Mrats 123" on the radio?

Well, it´s being done already and I think I prefer that to a layover in Kiev at the moment...

EK BONUS!!
 

Oh lospilotos; where is your sense of adventure ?

And be careful what you prefer, before you know it.. It will be common practice. That and the 1000 hrs a year (deadhead does not count).. Don't think we will have much time on the ground with family nd friends.

Well according to Sir Tim things are looking up this year:

Emirates looking at new sukuk - Emirates 24/7


Any one's guess what this could mean but I reckon we will get a payout..:}

We're going to rent out an aeroplane like a Dubai house? Will we suddenly up the rent 20% at late notice and charge a 5% fuel surcharge only for overseas airplane renters.

I've gotta get a piece of this business.

Can I put a slightly embellished model version of my planes in a glass case in a shopping mall and employ supposedly qualified blonde bimbos to advise potential customers?

:E

Will he be giving a free Lambo (or was it an R8?) to the anyone renting an aeroplane during DSF/DSS?! Or will he just put photos of a different aeroplane up in the classifieds and tell people that it's basically the same thing?

Vienna turnaround on the A380 is coming

Ten years ago Moscow was a turnaround on the 330 and it's one destination I wish still was! I have not heard the Vienna rumour but as far as I know we are not being allowed to operate the 380 into Vienna due to Lufthansa/Austrian objecting. A turn would be feasible in the summer with 4 crew however during the winter it would have to revert to a layover.

Do CC get rest on Kiev TA?

Flii - they are meant to. According to an MCC I spoke to the other day apparently Mgmt think they do however it seems as if they do not and unless the F/D state they are due a rest upon briefing - Pursers really don't give it.

I believe Vienna t/a is a crewmour that did the rounds after some bright spark spotted it in the timetable for end of April... that being a one off op out, deadhead back deal prior to the flight reductions. Someone ran with it to FB and it went from there... so I don't think it'll be a t/a just yet...

Kiev crew are knackered, and none that I know got any rest

(according to the Book crew should get 30mins on a LHR- YEAH. RIGHT)

Reliable source....
 

Informed by a trader in Dragon mart. They have received an order for around 3500 blankets, blow up pillows and seat cushions. :ok: Seems we will be getting more than a note book this year for a bonus:E

Reminds me, I must got get my note book from under the wobbly table leg in Fibbers:p

just saw VIE turnaround in may, think it was the 25th or 26th

Nairobi and Athens were made turn arounds due to events at those destinations, they were never made lay-overs again (except the late NBO). I have fears that VIE will be lost as a layover except in the winter months with the possible delays (Perhaps/ Maybe)

VIE A380 is a one day event to celebrate 10 years of Emirates VIE-DXB Service . No Panic

I'm sure these turn arounds will only be applicable when there is a single runway operation in DXB, otherwise it doesn't make any commercial sense.

Why block off 4 seats (round trip) and lose that revenue, that's twice as costly as a night stop, especially to premium destinations like VIE!

so the 'ulr' ta's are on the cards.


Anyone consider the real consequences. Besides being tired as hell operating back (because don't be fooled into thinking you won't be tired, especially when there is wx (enroute or other) or some other considerations, you wont be switching off on your 'rest') - the 'rest' crew on the return sector will no longer be on FDP, and so will have a seriously reduced home rest before the next duty.


as was mentioned, be careful about what you wish for.


If this is just left to be on a Kiev or other, we all know our friendly roster guys will make it the norm.


And to top it off, it will become a 'rest' in a 2 class (yes, no crc) - as recently happened in an augment CPT. serving 42 pax instead of 8 makes a huge diff in the noise level and the amount of time the bright cabin lighting is left on, besides the fact that the seat doesn't fully recline, and is too small to substitute as a bed (for me and many others). All in all absolutely no rest obtained.


safety above all else - oh no wait that is profit-(not to be)share(d)...

Just in case anyone thinks we will actually get a profit "share" this year.

Emirates defends no staff bonus, despite huge profit - Transport - ArabianBusiness.com

For info that artical is a year old, but expecting the same thing this year.

the other airline received 4 weeks I heard

Yes, the airline that can't be spoken about, got 4 weeks.