Shangaan what the hell are you thinking? Do you really think that way?
Start acting and thinking like a pilot please.

While I think it is too little and too late I will take everything they give!

Now when is this normally paid out?

Shangaan,

Your three weeks should just be enough to cover your "special tickets" for the year. Wow, cost neutral for the airline. Those EK bean counters are some crafty folks aren't they? The airline loves you buddy!

We'll receive it in this months pay. From my math we'll receive around 22000aed and FO's around 13000aed.

It's a cleverly tactic: make us believe there will be no bonus as the target wasn't reached, then give 3wks and incredibly we are happy. Don't forget that the company decide exactly how much of their huge turnover is profit, so there should be no surprise that it's come in at 4.1bn when the target was 4.2bn. They've gone from a situation where we should be receiving 8 to 10 weeks to one where the majority of the workforce is saying thank you for 3.

Harry

Check our numbers Harry. Even the most junior FO should be around 17-18.000.

The big issue with this "bonus/profit share" is that is has distracted a lot of people from the real issue, the pay rise, that's what get/NEED every month as the cost of living in the UAE has become very expensive...
Let's see how generous they are with that...should be announced soon...

Without suggesting I'm in one camp or the other, a bunch of you are nay-saying ner-do-wells who won't be happy with anything less than lowest industry standard work effort and highest pay. Sorry, but EK has proved they are market leaders in many respects and redefining the workforce pay and conditions is one of them. Are they winding the clock back? yes, it seems. No-one is forcing you to stay.

Further, it is deplorable that someone should stick his/her head above the parapet and actually be denigrated for saying they are happy with their lot. What was the quote? "start thinking like a pilot..'? Poor attitude - the loser that said that does nothing for the pilot image to management -the quote should/could have better been along the lines of 'start thinking like an indentured worker, etc'. All it did was equate pilot to whiner in the observer's eyes.

If you losers think you don't deserve your 3 weeks, why not just hand it back? Bet you won't though..

Yes, pay review is well overdue and we're all waiting to see.

Market leader? That's bold. EK benefits from the most enviable geography on the planet and an over flowing supply of cheap, non-unionized labour. Hats off to the trailblazers that figured it all out many years ago. The terms and living conditions have been slowly and painfully eroding to cope with the insane growth trajectory of the airline. If you're ok to see your standard of living go down the drain to support this market leader than perhaps you need to re-check what your value really is? Its assanine to suggest that EK pilots will only be happy once they work the least and earn the most. In real terms you guys are paid crap for the conditions and hours you put in. As mentioned, the bonus is just smoke and mirrors the real issue is hourly wage per hours worked....The package, quite simply,has not kept pace with the cost of living. Three weeks does nothing to address this.

Lospilotos - a junior FO will be on about 25000aed? We receive 5 days per week as a profit share, here's my workings-

25000x12 = 300000/yr
300000/52 = 5770/wk
5770/7 = 824/day
824x5 = 4121 for 5 days
5 days x 3wk bonus = 12360aed

Happy to be corrected if wrong though.

Harry

Harry - you hereby stand corrected.
It is a 7 day week for the calculation, not 5.

For sure the 3 weeks were unexpected and we will take it, but it's no more than everyone not just the pilots and crew deserves after the hours we all put in...
However as mentioned before if you count the hours we put in especially some of the "free ones" we are well below market rate and not up to industry leaders standards, a pay review is definitely well overdue compared to the cost of living etc...
Yes one can always leave but that's not always an option or the best option this however does not mean that we should be underpaid....

Although a lot of pilots are leaving especially when looking at the last few years many more need to leave to make the people that screw us take notice.
I know a lot of pilots have their applications in to other airlines but no one thinks many SA or Canadians will be leaving anytime soon.

Yeah about 25-26.000 it is...

I was calculating basic salary x 12 months / 52 weeks x 3 weeks. It seems weird to get the daily salary based on 7 days a week and then only get paid for 5...

And by the way, the "Profit share" info on Groupworld says that it´s paid out in June. Haven´t been here long enough to get any before so if it´s paid in May, even better...

Your current daily rate is on the portal under EOSB. Multiply by 21... Very easy.

I'll take the 3 weeks; no complaints. Pay review on the other hand, as always, will be more interesting. They really need to keep up with cost of living and inflation however, those of you thinking big pay raises will be disappointed. My guess is increment + 2% ( 5% total ). In years past the increment was never brought into focus and more or less assumed as part of the contract. Times a changin.

Profit share has always been the same: monthly X 12 / 52

It has nothing to do with a five day work week. Who came up with that beauty? We will all receive it in May along with the adjusted pay when announced. Place your bets! :)

Thanks gents, I've never been so happy to be corrected!

Harry

If l recall the last pay review was announced in May and was paid in June with no back date.

halas

Halas,

Announces 15th May. And was in May pay last year. Bonus and payreview has always been paid in May since I have been here.

The don

largess also largesse (lär-zhĕs′, -jĕs′, lär′jĕs′)
n.
a. Liberality in bestowing gifts, especially in a lofty or condescending manner.
b. Money or gifts bestowed.

Post of the month, Jebus, post of the month. Spot on.

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If only others could figure it out.